ToriElectra 292 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I'm honestly half wondering when an angry mob of us users will converge on TV Hill and try to take WJZ by force and overthrow KC Robertson- that's the vibe I'm getting here. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 WJZ is starting to show a few signs of weakness by dropping to second in a couple of timeslots. I think that if WMAR can get its act together and become a threat, don't be surprised if there's a graphical change coming forth on TV Hill. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3955 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 WJZ is starting to show a few signs of weakness by dropping to second in a couple of timeslots. I think that if WMAR can get its act together and become a threat, don't be surprised if there's a graphical change coming forth on TV Hill. WBFF will be a threat before WMAR ever is. Scripps' past moves of dumping syndicated shows have given Wheel and Jeopardy to WBFF on a silver platter. And technically, they're a locally owned station with SBG being up the road in Hunt Valley. Poaching Kai Jackson is another blow to 'JZ as well. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 WBFF will be a threat before WMAR ever is. Scripps' past moves of dumping syndicated shows have given Wheel and Jeopardy to WBFF on a silver platter. And technically, they're a locally owned station with SBG being up the road in Hunt Valley. Poaching Kai Jackson is another blow to 'JZ as well. WMAR is Scripps step child that get leftovers from their big brother & sister stations like WXYZ, WEWS, WCPO, WPTV, but WMAR has done some solid work, but remains in third place and sometimes fight with WBFF for the late news ratings. However there have been times where WMAR did give the competition some heat. Yes, back in the early 1990s WMAR was the little engine it could at that time NBC affiliate. I wanted to see how much Helvetica can be stretched in Photoshop... We said, and totally agree with you 1000%! This was a very funny post too! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero23 105 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 WJZ is the corniest O&O next to WPVI of all network owned stations. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3307 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I watched a few WJZ newscasts last week. Weirdest. Network O&O. Ever. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
newscopter7 233 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 'JZ may be weird, but it's something it's cookie cutter sister stations--WCBS, KCBS, WBBM--aren't: competitive in their market. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 'JZ may be weird, but it's something it's cookie cutter sister stations--WCBS, KCBS, WBBM--aren't: competitive in their market. How are WFOR and KCNC doing, though? Those two stations lost a lot of their visual identity when they got Borged into the CBS standard (although I wasn't a fan of the 2000-era WFOR logo)... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveKendall 30 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Don't WCCO and KDKA do pretty well? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cg41386 132 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Yes. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 WJZ is the corniest O&O next to WPVI of all network owned stations. I would add kitsch to that. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhratbrat 437 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 WFOR is 8th (YES 8th Place) I think WJZ is like the corny aunt or uncle that might tell bad jokes and have a bad visual identity, but if you or anyone else in your family needed something, they would be there for you in a minute. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I don't get why this thread is still active. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Because were all adding our own opinions to the conversation that why the thread is still active. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCirq 148 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 WFOR is 8th (YES 8th Place) I think WJZ is like the corny aunt or uncle that might tell bad jokes and have a bad visual identity, but if you or anyone else in your family needed something, they would be there for you in a minute. 8TH PLACE!!!!!! WFOR is in Eight PLACE! (Who's they stumped? TBN?) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2449 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 WFOR is 8th (YES 8th Place) I think WJZ is like the corny aunt or uncle that might tell bad jokes and have a bad visual identity, but if you or anyone else in your family needed something, they would be there for you in a minute. Let me guess... My favorite station, WSVN is #1 WPLG #2 WTVJ #3 WSCV #4 WLTV #5 WJAN/WFUN #6 WGEN #7 WFOR #8 Yeah, WFOR is seriously in last place. Nobody watches them. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3955 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Since ABC has WPVI, CBS has WJZ, who would be considered the "wild card" stations for NBC and FOX? KTVU seems the most likely since their acquisition, but NBC has pretty much stripped ALL of their stations of uniqueness....WRC perhaps? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5585 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Yeah, WMAQ was the bastard child of NBC for a number of years, sticking with 2005-ish's Look A and a general image that dated back to the turn of the century until a top to bottom overhaul 2012. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A3N 1002 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Yeah, WMAQ was the bastard child of NBC for a number of years, sticking with 2005-ish's Look A and a general image that dated back to the turn of the century until a top to bottom overhaul 2012. I think KNSD has WMAQ beat at being NBC's bastard child. Whatever was going on at WMAQ up until a few years ago (graphics, set-wise, music, etc.) was management at the local level. KNSD on the other hand has been screwed time after time (none more apparent than the NBC 2.0 cuts). You should have seen the mess of graphics that they used prior to them receiving Look A in 2005. At one point, they were using an animated peacock on a black background with no branding and a cut of music as their open. And I don't even want to get started on equipment. Old and busted (it's improved a bit, but they don't get the fancy toys like the other stations). Plus, they finally retired a live truck from the mid 90s about 3 or 4 years ago. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4378 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I don't get why this thread is still active. Because. It's WJZ. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Because. It's WJZ. Maryland's News Station. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Because. It's WJZ. Maryland's News Station. The one & only JZ... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 804 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I think KNSD has WMAQ beat at being NBC's bastard child. Whatever was going on at WMAQ up until a few years ago (graphics, set-wise, music, etc.) was management at the local level. KNSD on the other hand has been screwed time after time (none more apparent than the NBC 2.0 cuts). You should have seen the mess of graphics that they used prior to them receiving Look A in 2005. At one point, they were using an animated peacock on a black background with no branding and a cut of music as their open. And I don't even want to get started on equipment. Old and busted (it's improved a bit, but they don't get the fancy toys like the other stations). Plus, they finally retired a live truck from the mid 90s about 3 or 4 years ago. Not to mention they essentially re-painted their news set for the launch of HD newscasts (along with the short-lived Look E graphics). Hopefully, when they move back to Bala Cynwyd (sorry, wrong city) Kearny Mesa, that will change. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3955 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 For NBC....I think WRC has that "wild card" quality to it. Do they still play "My Mood" on Friday Nights? Big difference between a "wild card" and "bastard stepchild". That's why WJZ is a wild card because it endears people with it's dated graphics, Chroma Cues, and traces of it's Westinghouse past. WFOR is a bastard stepchild because of the market it's in. The Spanish stations trounce the English ones, so the same could be said about WTVJ too (and it's probably beaten by their Telemundo counterpart!) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2449 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 For NBC....I think WRC has that "wild card" quality to it. Do they still play "My Mood" on Friday Nights? Big difference between a "wild card" and "bastard stepchild". That's why WJZ is a wild card because it endears people with it's dated graphics, Chroma Cues, and traces of it's Westinghouse past. WFOR is a bastard stepchild because of the market it's in. The Spanish stations trounce the English ones, so the same could be said about WTVJ too (and it's probably beaten by their Telemundo counterpart!) WSCV is #1 at 11pm, regardless of language in Miami. Network wild cards: WJZ = CBS WPVI = ABC WRC = NBC WTVT or KSAZ = FOX Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14556-debunked-wjz-dropped-chroma-cues/page/2/#findComment-132724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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