ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 But that was the case when they got it in 2011... What is "it" to which you are referring? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 What is "it" to which you are referring? KMGH... The place has been in trouble for a long time... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 Not since 2013. The branding changes occurred in 2015. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1916 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Apparently, Scripps is "reorganizing" the promotions department to "build a promotions strategy with greater digital and social marketing focus". www.ftvlive.com/todays-news/2016/2/11/reorganizing-the-promo-department-in-denver Which sounds to me like they're getting rid of all the promotions producers and bringing in "digital" people with lower salaries and less experience. That'll drive the ratings up. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Not since 2013. The branding changes occurred in 2015. What? I know when the changes occurred... I'm just saying KMGH has has problems for years... This little rebrand is just another saga in a basket case of a station... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 What? I know when the changes occurred... I'm just saying KMGH has has problems for years... This little rebrand is just another saga in a basket case of a station... My point is that it hasn't been years. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 My point is that it hasn't been years. So their ratings were great before 2013? #1 mostly in fact? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 They were Third, not fifth as they are now. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 They were Third, not fifth as they are now. Then they've been hurting for awhile... Third isn't real good... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 They were third under McGraw-Hill O&O Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOMatrix 1299 Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 They were Third, not fifth as they are now. Fifth, as in lower ratings than even KWGN? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 Fifth, as in lower ratings than even KWGN? So I've heard. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1537 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 So the top three would be KUSA, KCNC, and KDVR? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 So the top three would be KUSA, KCNC, and KDVR? Yes sir. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 They were third under McGraw-Hill O&O So that's something to be proud of? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 So that's something to be proud of?Compared to now. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Compared to now. I can't see anybody proud of being 3rd... Sure it's better than 5th but it's still heads rolling territory. Maybe MGH was more relaxed, who knows? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I can't see anybody proud of being 3rd... Sure it's better than 5th but it's still heads rolling territory. Maybe MGH was more relaxed, who knows? I think you have to realize how boring of a market Denver is and always has been. KUSA has been the dominant #1 for decades, with some very rare and minor cases of them skirting toward #2. KCNC has always been more or less a solid #2, and KMGH for the last 15 years or so has been a respectable third, with some instances of the station being able to seriously challenge KCNC for #2. It's hard to reasonably imagine the Denver market being almost anything different. 7 saw some traction with some new formats and resources not long after the Scripps takeover, but it appears as if the station has been in freefall ever since then. I don't live in Denver fulltime anymore, but I don't recognize much on 7 whenever I tune in. It's hard to keep viewers when things keep changing from one sweeps to the next. It's a shame to see the station go through the wringer of Scripps' on-air laboratory, as I think KMGH had a really solid and dependable product in the early-to-late 2000s with the hard news/investigative approach. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I think you have to realize how boring of a market Denver is and always has been. KUSA has been the dominant #1 for decades, with some very rare and minor cases of them skirting toward #2. KCNC has always been more or less a solid #2, and KMGH for the last 15 years or so has been a respectable third, with some instances of the station being able to seriously challenge KCNC for #2. It's hard to reasonably imagine the Denver market being almost anything different. 7 saw some traction with some new formats and resources not long after the Scripps takeover, but it appears as if the station has been in freefall ever since then. I don't live in Denver fulltime anymore, but I don't recognize much on 7 whenever I tune in. It's hard to keep viewers when things keep changing from one sweeps to the next. It's a shame to see the station go through the wringer of Scripps' on-air laboratory, as I think KMGH had a really solid and dependable product in the early-to-late 2000s with the hard news/investigative approach. Ok I'll put it this way: some station Scripps owns has to be the Guinea pig... KMGH for whatever reason won that contest... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Ok I'll put it this way: some station Scripps owns has to be the Guinea pig... KMGH for whatever reason won that contest... The poor folks of Denver have nowhere to run to. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1717 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 The poor folks of Denver have nowhere to run to. And I'm not happy about it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 And I'm not happy about it. And who you gonna call? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 And who you gonna call? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id=IWLpcFp_2CM;t=23 Just because this used to air on KMGH all the time (and Go Broncos...) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id=IWLpcFp_2CM;t=23 Just because this used to air on KMGH all the time (and Go Broncos...) That's fantastic! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14736-changes-coming-to-denvers-abc-affiliate/page/9/#findComment-145598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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