mardek1995 200 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 AND would that big affiliation switch ever occurred had CBS matched Fox's bid and kept the NFC Package? More than likely not, and the Simpsons wouldn't be around to this day, nor would NBC lose the AFC package. And I'm not even sure Fox would be around if CBS kept the NFC package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oklahomanewsman 210 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 More than likely not, and the Simpsons wouldn't be around to this day, nor would NBC lose the AFC package. And I'm not even sure Fox would be around if CBS kept the NFC package Also we would still have ABC Monday Night Football we wouldn't have ESPN on ABC we would still have ABC Sports and Al Michaels would still be doing Monday Night Football instead of Sunday Night Football also ESPN would still be airing Sunday Night Football instead of NBC. Also that big affiliation switch in places like Denver would've never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4738 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Also we would still have ABC Monday Night Football we wouldn't have ESPN on ABC we would still have ABC Sports and Al Michaels would still be doing Monday Night Football instead of Sunday Night Football also ESPN would still be airing Sunday Night Football instead of NBC. Also that big affiliation switch in places like Denver would've never happened. Would there still be "New CocaCola"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oklahomanewsman 210 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Would there still be "New CocaCola"? Nope we would still have the old Coca-Cola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Nope we would still have the old Coca-Cola And NBC would still have an O&O in Denver (unless you count KDEN as one) and Westinghouse might've grown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4225 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 AND would that big affiliation switch ever occurred had CBS matched Fox's bid and kept the NFC Package? Fox was hell-bent on getting the NFL - they made a Hail Mary bid for Monday Night Football in 1987 - and had they not won the NFC, they would have made a massive offer for the AFC in 1998. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1562 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Ok. Back on topic. I think I've found a reason that Scripps would keep SAM as their composer. The former CSD from WXYZ is the Creative and Marketing Director at SAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVNewsLover 730 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Ok. Back on topic. I think I've found a reason that Scripps would keep SAM as their composer. The former CSD from WXYZ is the Creative and Marketing Director at SAM. Not exactly on topic either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1562 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Not exactly on topic either... I already set the parameters of this thread on page six. We've broadened this topic too much. Can we please keep it focused on the Denver market and KMGH? Historic facts about the McGraw Hill stations and future updates to Scripps stations are fine, but anything about Scripps past without the Denver affiliate should be posted in a Scripps thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 846 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I already set the parameters of this thread on page six. Why do you need to set parameters? Let the discussion do what it will... Who's the person in question at SAM? Is it Dave Bolland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVNewsLover 730 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I already set the parameters of this thread on page six. I'm sorry, didn't realize you were the boss of what can and can't be said (just because you started the thread doesn't make you boss). All I'm saying is don't be the pot calling the kettle black. You're off topic just as the person before you was off topic. Justifying it because it's a Scripps-related future update and you said in your parameters that was okay doesn't make it on topic. I wish people would stick to posting and stop being the posting police. Okay... End rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1562 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Why do you need to set parameters? Let the discussion do what it will... Who's the person in question at SAM? Is it Dave Bolland? Dave Baumann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1562 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 I'm sorry, didn't realize you were the boss of what can and can't be said (just because you started the thread doesn't make you boss). All I'm saying is don't be the pot calling the kettle black. You're off topic just as the person before you was off topic. Justifying it because it's a Scripps-related future update and you said in your parameters that was okay doesn't make it on topic. I wish people would stick to posting and stop being the posting police. Okay... End rant. Gee, I try to set parameters to maintain some semblance of a conversation because without them, we would go off on long tangents about Fox or the NFL and that isn't the goal here, wise a**. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVNewsLover 730 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Gee, I try to set parameters to maintain some semblance of a conversation because without them, we would go off on long tangents about Fox or the NFL and that isn't the goal here, wise a**. You're missing the point. I don't disagree that the Fox or NFL talk is off topic. But so is your talk about some potential Scripps-wide future update. Sure, both those topics can be traced back somehow to KMGH, but they are off topic. As for the parameters, they are completely arbitrary and of your choosing. Again, stop trying to be the post police. That's what moderators are for. And is it really necessary to resort to name calling? Seems a little childish to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1679 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I think this is just a case of a thread's OP trying to get the topic back at hand which is KMGH's changes. Sure we all delve off topic on occasion but this thread seemed to go way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1562 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 From the overnight reports, KMGH is getting killed in the ratings. They were starting to gain traction with the "10min of Non-stop News at 10", but they are now floundering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 846 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Gee, I try to set parameters to maintain some semblance of a conversation because without them, we would go off on long tangents about Fox or the NFL and that isn't the goal here, wise a**. That's not neccesary at all... It's not that big a deal... Chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 846 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Dave Baumann Yeah that's who I meant... He's an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oklahomanewsman 210 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Fox was hell-bent on getting the NFL - they made a Hail Mary bid for Monday Night Football in 1987 - and had they not won the NFC, they would have made a massive offer for the AFC in 1998. Problem was that Fox didn't want the AFC Package they wanted the NFC Package because the NFC had teams in larger markets (like NYC, Dallas, LA, etc.) whereas the AFC was in smaller markets. That's why Fox went after the NFC Package instead of the AFC Package. Back on topic did I hear that KMGH was getting killed by KUSA, KCNC and KDVR in the ratings department for Local News? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVNewsLover 730 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Problem was that Fox didn't want the AFC Package they wanted the NFC Package because the NFC had teams in larger markets (like NYC, Dallas, LA, etc.) whereas the AFC was in smaller markets. That's why Fox went after the NFC Package instead of the AFC Package. Chicago, Philly, Dallas, SF (NY & LA were in both conferences at that time). Also the NFC was much stronger at that time as well. But more importantly, get in line with original poster's parameters for this thread, or he might have another temper tantrum and start calling you names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 846 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Problem was that Fox didn't want the AFC Package they wanted the NFC Package because the NFC had teams in larger markets (like NYC, Dallas, LA, etc.) whereas the AFC was in smaller markets. That's why Fox went after the NFC Package instead of the AFC Package. Back on topic did I hear that KMGH was getting killed by KUSA, KCNC and KDVR in the ratings department for Local News? Yes you did hear that and indeed they are dead last... that makes them a perfect place to test things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVNewsLover 730 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Problem was that Fox didn't want the AFC Package they wanted the NFC Package because the NFC had teams in larger markets (like NYC, Dallas, LA, etc.) whereas the AFC was in smaller markets. That's why Fox went after the NFC Package instead of the AFC Package. Back on topic did I hear that KMGH was getting killed by KUSA, KCNC and KDVR in the ratings department for Local News? Nice edit to comply with the parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1562 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Yeah that's who I meant... He's an idiot. Oh. Are personally acquainted with him? Back on topic did I hear that KMGH was getting killed by KUSA, KCNC and KDVR in the ratings department for Local News? Yes. Smothered. It doesn't help that the newsroom takes up a 1/4th of the floor that they're on. It's tiny. Smallest in the top 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 846 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Oh. Are personally acquainted with him? I talked with him a few times trying to get information... He tended to not return phone calls and not take inquiries (even relatively serious ones) about WXYZ seriously. He gave really stupid explanations when he did and generally acted like I didn't know anything about the place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC 7 Denver 1562 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 I talked with him a few times trying to get information... He tended to not return phone calls and not take inquiries (even relatively serious ones) about WXYZ seriously. He gave really stupid explanations when he did and generally acted like I didn't know anything about the place... How did you represent yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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