ns8401 941 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 If people don't want to see doom and gloom, then they don't need to watch local news. I've heard the critics who say that local news is depressing, but that's not your target audience. If everything is good and working the way that it should, then what's there to report? Aside from something like jobs coming to the area, majority of the time news is negative. It is what it is. I get tired of these stations trying to be everything to everybody. Just report the news, weather, traffic and sports. As far as Detroit is concerned, I watched the morning and evening shows. I only saw cooking in the morning, but all of the other fluff was in the evening too. It's been that way for a while.Even in the Kwame era, I remember watching and thinking 'who cares about this bs?' I think his question was which of the stations? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-140703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardNewsCLT 20 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Local 4, Fox 2 and Channel 7. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-140709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 Local 4, Fox 2 and Channel 7. But they don't all do cooking in the morning (unless it's on 2 or 20 in the fluffier time opposite today or GMA but that's not unusual). The other newscasts seem to me to be about where have been for the past 20 some odd years... Channel 7 and FOX 2 if anything have hardened their news content lately... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-140711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnya2k6 171 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Well...WSB was too chickenshit to put out their November ratings roundup, but here's October's. The big surprise is that WXIA, thanks of course to "Sunday Night Football" and "The Voice", held off WGCL for #2 in primetime (WAGA, even with mega-hit "Empire", crashed to fourth)...among the 25-54s. At least Fox 5 still holds claim to having both "Atlanta's #1 late news" and now "Georgia's Most Watched News", which is pretty much a big "F*** you!" to Channel 2. After their preview episodes following The Voice, I can see Telenovela and Superstore becoming the new Monday night hits come mid-season, and for good reason: The two shows mark the TV returns of Eva Longoria and America Ferrera, this time on NBC (both were previously on ABC; Longoria was of course one of the Desperate Housewives and she's pulling double duty on Telenovela as executive producer, Ferrera starred in Ugly Betty). 11 Alive will be pulling no punches to siphon viewers away from Supergirl (WGCL), Gotham (WAGA), and The Bachelor (WSB) with those two spicy Latinos. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-140779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3948 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 WVTM in Birmingham is clawing their way out of the ratings basement by simply getting their name back out there with image and branding promos.... The reward was a 50 percent jump on household ratings...the question is...is it enough to send WIAT 42 News CBS (or whatever they call themselves) back into the basement? http://www.tvnewscheck.com/marketshare/2015/12/08/wvtms-november-sweeps-elevator-pitch/ Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-140861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2409 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 WVTM in Birmingham is clawing their way out of the ratings basement by simply getting their name back out there with image and branding promos.... The reward was a 50 percent jump on household ratings...the question is...is it enough to send WIAT 42 News CBS (or whatever they call themselves) back into the basement? http://www.tvnewscheck.com/marketshare/2015/12/08/wvtms-november-sweeps-elevator-pitch/ I thought WVTM was third behind WBMA when WVTM was known as Alabama's 13 under MG. Now under Hearst ownership and changed to WVTM 13 News, I think WVTM is a very strong #2, ahead of WBMA (3rd) and WIAT (4th) but still behind WBRC who is still #1. EDIT: The promos at the bottom when they mention WVTM as the fastest-growing news station in Central Alabama say "NSI Nov 2015 HH | 4:00, 5:00, 6:00 am, 4:00 (4:30), 5:00, 6:00 (6:30), 10:00 pm." Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-140863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 826 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I thought WVTM was third behind WBMA when WVTM was known as Alabama's 13 under MG. Now under Hearst ownership and changed to WVTM 13 News, I think WVTM is a very strong #2, ahead of WBMA (3rd) and WIAT (4th) but still behind WBRC who is still #1. EDIT: The promos at the bottom when they mention WVTM as the fastest-growing news station in Central Alabama say "NSI Nov 2015 HH | 4:00, 5:00, 6:00 am, 4:00 (4:30), 5:00, 6:00 (6:30), 10:00 pm." The 2012-2013 ratings had 6.) #1, 42.) #2, 33/40.) #3 13.) #4 sounds like Hearst is pumping some needed $$$ into the station, and there trying to moved back on top. Sounds like there a big fight in Birmingham among the (4) shops in the market. Hmm. I do wonder??? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-140865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 826 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Well...WSB was too chickenshit to put out their November ratings roundup, but here's October's. The big surprise is that WXIA, thanks of course to "Sunday Night Football" and "The Voice", held off WGCL for #2 in primetime (WAGA, even with mega-hit "Empire", crashed to fourth)...among the 25-54s. At least Fox 5 still holds claim to having both "Atlanta's #1 late news" and now "Georgia's Most Watched News", which is pretty much a big "F*** you!" to Channel 2. After their preview episodes following The Voice, I can see Telenovela and Superstore becoming the new Monday night hits come mid-season, and for good reason: The two shows mark the TV returns of Eva Longoria and America Ferrera, this time on NBC (both were previously on ABC; Longoria was of course one of the Desperate Housewives and she's pulling double duty on Telenovela as executive producer, Ferrera starred in Ugly Betty). 11 Alive will be pulling no punches to siphon viewers away from Supergirl (WGCL), Gotham (WAGA), and The Bachelor (WSB) with those two spicy Latinos. Not shocked, but of course WSB-TV wears their ratings dominance on their sleeve. They don't want those November sweeps to be shown (I wonder why) but WAGA 10pm beat WSB's 11pm, and this is not a first. When American Idol was very popular they were besting WSB at 11pm. WSB owns the market, but it would be nice if the other stations in the market would shake things up. In October it seems NBC's Primetime in Atlanta was #2 and the (4) 11pm news among WAGA, WXIA, WGCL were very tight. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-140866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 WVTM in Birmingham is clawing their way out of the ratings basement by simply getting their name back out there with image and branding promos.... The reward was a 50 percent jump on household ratings...the question is...is it enough to send WIAT 42 News CBS (or whatever they call themselves) back into the basement? http://www.tvnewscheck.com/marketshare/2015/12/08/wvtms-november-sweeps-elevator-pitch/ If WVTM can get back to #1, that would be one of the great comeback stories. I figured that 33/40 had dropped to 4th though? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-140874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2409 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The 2012-2013 ratings had 6.) #1, 42.) #2, 33/40.) #3 13.) #4 sounds like Hearst is pumping some needed $$$ into the station, and there trying to moved back on top. Sounds like there a big fight in Birmingham among the (4) shops in the market. Hmm. I do wonder??? Wait a minute... you're telling me that in 2012-2013, WIAT 42 was #2 ?! Your kidding. Wow. Who would've thought? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-140886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 826 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Wait a minute... you're telling me that in 2012-2013, WIAT 42 was #2 ?! Your kidding. Wow. Who would've thought? Here a couple of few articles. http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/blog/2013/08/nielsen-ranks-birminghams-top-tv.html http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/blog/2012/08/top-of-the-list-fox-6-holds-on-to-top.html http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/subscriber-only/2013/08/16/birminghams-television-stations.html Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-140900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 WVTM in Birmingham is clawing their way out of the ratings basement by simply getting their name back out there with image and branding promos.... The reward was a 50 percent jump on household ratings...the question is...is it enough to send WIAT 42 News CBS (or whatever they call themselves) back into the basement? http://www.tvnewscheck.com/marketshare/2015/12/08/wvtms-november-sweeps-elevator-pitch/ I think this shows what happens when you give a station more resources they'll be more competitive. It may take some time to get out of the basement but you'll probably get some increase. But it also helped that WVTM went to an all out advertising campaign. During sweeps here WJZ and WBFF are the only stations locally that go all out. Edit : I just thought I'd put out there that when Comcast bought NBC they started pouring resources into their stations and they are becoming competitors in their respective markets , particularly the Telemudo. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-140904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 WBAL has been airing promos saying they're the most watched all year to date through 25 November. They also made a comment about being the best. Does the most watched mean the best? I guess they could say that based on the reviews based on their riot coverage. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-141024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 941 Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 WBAL has been airing promos saying they're the most watched all year to date through 25 November. They also made a comment about being the best. Does the most watched mean the best? I guess they could say that based on the reviews based on their riot coverage. The best is just whatever they felt like saying... There is no way to really measure "the best" qualitatively... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-141028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 The best is just whatever they felt like saying... There is no way to really measure "the best" qualitatively... True. I guess they equate ratings + some of the reviews of their coverage (even though WJZ got a few reviews too) = best. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-141030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3948 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think this shows what happens when you give a station more resources they'll be more competitive. It may take some time to get out of the basement but you'll probably get some increase. But it also helped that WVTM went to an all out advertising campaign. During sweeps here WJZ and WBFF are the only stations locally that go all out. Edit : I just thought I'd put out there that when Comcast bought NBC they started pouring resources into their stations and they are becoming competitors in their respective markets , particularly the Telemudo. When you're that far down.....it's far more effective to re-establish your brand and get back into people's habits than to run gimmick after gimmick during sweeps just to please a particular demo. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-141033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Chicago: http://www.robertfeder.com/2015/11/27/abc-7-leads-in-losing-battle-at-10-p-m/#more-9559 Total Viewers (10pm): ▪ ABC 7: 8.1 rating; 14 share ▪ NBC 5: 6.7 rating; 11 share ▪ CBS 2: 3.0 rating; 5 share ▪ WGN: 2.7 rating; 5 share Demo Viewers (10pm): ▪ NBC 5: 3.2 rating; 9 share ▪ ABC 7: 3.2 rating; 8 share ▪ WGN: 1.3 rating; 4 share ▪ CBS 2: 1.2 rating; 3 share Total Viewers (9pm): ▪ WGN: 4.1 rating; 6 share ▪ Fox 32: 2.7 rating; 4 share Demo Viewers (9pm): ▪ WGN: 1.8 rating; 4 share ▪ Fox 32: 1.5 rating; 4 share I don't know about this but, I think that the Chicago Bears games probably help in Fox 32's viewership considering it's Fox's red-headed step child in the same way CBS 2 Chicago is CBS's red-headed stepchild nowadays, and this is despite the fact that Fox 32 is one of Fox's legacy stations Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-141034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5575 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I don't know about this but, I think that the Chicago Bears games probably help in Fox 32's viewership considering it's Fox's red-headed step child in the same way CBS 2 Chicago is CBS's red-headed stepchild nowadays, and this is despite the fact that Fox 32 is one of Fox's legacy stations Maybe WFLD gets a total day bump in viewers during the fall, but the Bears aren't helping them at 9. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-141035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Maybe WFLD gets a total day bump in viewers during the fall, but the Bears aren't helping them at 9. That's why I said that Fox 32 is Fox's red-headed stepchild despite it being one of Fox's legacy stations. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-141037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Lets be careful about offending the red headed step children of the world. They have feelings too. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-141039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Lets be careful about offending the red headed step children of the world. They have feelings too. I know, it's just that Fox and CBS should show some love for their stations in Chicago. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-141041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero23 105 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I thought WVTM was third behind WBMA when WVTM was known as Alabama's 13 under MG. Now under Hearst ownership and changed to WVTM 13 News, I think WVTM is a very strong #2, ahead of WBMA (3rd) and WIAT (4th) but still behind WBRC who is still #1. EDIT: The promos at the bottom when they mention WVTM as the fastest-growing news station in Central Alabama say "NSI Nov 2015 HH | 4:00, 5:00, 6:00 am, 4:00 (4:30), 5:00, 6:00 (6:30), 10:00 pm." I'm so not surprised. I felt that Hearst would save WVTM from its mediocrity that it suffered under MG's ownership. Although WVTM is no longer network-owned and operated (which is why the station was so dominant from the late 1990s through mid-2000s), Hearst has a very strong relationship with NBC and this is one of those stations that will significantly benefit from this relationship. Also I just wish they would go back to calling the morning news "Today in Alabama" or some variant along with bringing back the NBC chimes to the end of their weather segments that many larger market NBC affiliates do and I would be satisfied. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-141065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techteacher42 4 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 True. I guess they equate ratings + some of the reviews of their coverage (even though WJZ got a few reviews too) = best. If only WJZ would update their news set. They are stuck in a time warp with an old set from 1998. The only station in Baltimore not to receive a new set. Pathetic. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-141110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin 15 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Do any of you know if in New Orleans is fox 8 now #1 at 10pm Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-142939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
almostlive 4 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Do any of you know if in New Orleans is fox 8 now #1 at 10pm Nielsen says: 5:00 WWL 8.7HH (3.1 A25-54) WDSU 7.2 (2.9) WVUE 6.4 (2.4) 6:00 (5:30 for WVUE) WWL 10.0 (3.4) WDSU 7.3 (3.3) WVUE 5.9 (2.3) 10:00 M-S WWL 8.3 (4.3) WVUE 6.9 (3.2) WDSU 6.2 (2.8) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14802-november-2015-sweeps-results/page/4/#findComment-143190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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