channel2 979 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 ABC could pack up and leave for KZJO if we're considering flipping KRCW and WDCW to ABC to be a plausible scenario. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-148894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 If KPLR drops CW and MNTV isn't available, what do they fill primetime with? Launch another newscast at 8pm, and couple it with the 7pm news as counter-programming. And TBH, if the MyTV affiliation does become available (should the CW land on KMOV 4.3) they probably will stick it in the late night hours, like most of their major market affils have already done. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-148895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfuego35 90 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 KDNL is an ABC affiliate until 2019 or 2020. KDNL's agreement expires August 2020 The sad reality is that this isn't 1998 anymore when they only had Pensacola and Charleston, WV; Sinclair is now ABC's top affiliate group, and they're stuck with KDNL in order to keep SBG's business. Barring then inexplicably throwing them into the auction, a massive technical failure or someone at ABC corporate having some terrible secret about David Smith to wriggle them out of the deal, it's more worth it to keep the network on KDNL and keep SBG happy, lacking news content, Maury and all. If ABC wanted to, they could have pulled their affiliation from KDNL for breach of contract in 2014, by not having a newscast of some kind for nearly a year. In ABC's eyes, The Allman Report meets the requirements, since it is produced in St. Louis, airs before GMA, ABC World News, and ABC's late night programming, and provides "news" content to the community, even though it is bias. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-148938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha 2895 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 In ABC's eyes, The Allman Report meets the requirements, since it is produced in St. Louis, airs before GMA, ABC World News, and ABC's late night programming, and provides "news" content to the community, even though it is bias. Bingo. This is the minimum of what they have to do to meet the contract: 1. Is it a "locally produced news Program"? 2. Is it "at least one-half hour"? 3. Does it air Monday to Friday? 4. Does it air before ABC's "morning news Program", its "evening news Program" and its "late night Programming"? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-148939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSC1980 112 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Bingo. This is the minimum of what they have to do to meet the contract: 1. Is it a "locally produced news Program"? 2. Is it "at least one-half hour"? 3. Does it air Monday to Friday? 4. Does it air before ABC's "morning news Program", its "evening news Program" and its "late night Programming"? I think this also make sense for WGNO ditched traditional newscasts for News With A Twist. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-148958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Some promising news. Deadline Hollywood said this morning that a new affiliate deal between The CW & Tribune Media could be near. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardek1995 200 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 The sad reality is that this isn't 1998 anymore when they only had Pensacola and Charleston, WV; Sinclair is now ABC's top affiliate group, and they're stuck with KDNL in order to keep SBG's business. Barring then inexplicably throwing them into the auction, a massive technical failure or someone at ABC corporate having some terrible secret about David Smith to wriggle them out of the deal, it's more worth it to keep the network on KDNL and keep SBG happy, lacking news content, Maury and all.Not to mention that ABC may end up more conservative because of them, but I'd rather take that subject to the Sinclair thread (but yeah, KDNL will stay an ABC affiliate until 2019, and maybe even longer than that) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2429 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Robert Feder just posted that WGN is gone from the CW in September; WPWR replaces it in Chicago (and now with MyNet out of primetime in two of the top three markets, they might be in danger themselves). Not sure about the rest of Trib across the nation yet. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Robert Feder just posted that WGN is gone from the CW in September; WPWR replaces it in Chicago (and now with MyNet out of primetime in two of the top three markets, they might be in danger themselves). Not sure about the rest of Trib across the nation yet. Oh My! ... Ouchy! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3304 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Robert Feder just posted that WGN is gone from the CW in September; WPWR replaces it in Chicago (and now with MyNet out of primetime in two of the top three markets, they might be in danger themselves). Not sure about the rest of Trib across the nation yet. This is huge. WGN9 is one of the CW's strongest affiliates. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSC1980 112 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Robert Feder just posted that WGN is gone from the CW in September; WPWR replaces it in Chicago (and now with MyNet out of primetime in two of the top three markets, they might be in danger themselves). Not sure about the rest of Trib across the nation yet.So that the CW has reached agreement with FOX? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlnews2 591 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 that's a big loss. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swillh2k2 203 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Robert Feder just posted that WGN is gone from the CW in September; WPWR replaces it in Chicago (and now with MyNet out of primetime in two of the top three markets, they might be in danger themselves). Not sure about the rest of Trib across the nation yet. Big news. Might have a major ripple effect nationwide. Have to think WGN can carry on as an independent with an increased sports/movie schedule, though. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swillh2k2 203 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Not to mention that ABC may end up more conservative because of them, but I'd rather take that subject to the Sinclair thread (but yeah, KDNL will stay an ABC affiliate until 2019, and maybe even longer than that) I feel like we've mentioned this before. The political viewpoints of the owners of the ABC affiliates have no bearing on the network's political viewpoints. Just because Sinclair is conservative doesn't mean that it will spread to the network level. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2415 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Big news. Might have a major ripple effect nationwide. Have to think WGN can carry on as an independent with an increased sports/movie schedule, though. Think about this... WGN will be going Independent for the first time in 21 years! It seems like just yesterday when WGN-TV was one, but even I can't believe it was so long ago when WGN-TV was an Independent. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2429 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Just doing a search for "CW WGN" on Twitter brings this up; WGN is the biggest provider of the CW in Canada since the Chicago signal is cleared for them rather than WGN America (the rest is from border stations, smaller Trib superstations like WPIX and KTLA and whatever deals WBTV and CBS Studios makes with the domestic networks/streaming providers for CW programming). If it goes to KCOP and WWOR if Fox got them, they have to cross their fingers Sunbeam doesn't hoard it in Boston (and the WHDH mess) and CBS grabs it for WSBK as KCOP isn't superstation-cleared (WWOR is, but to a much lesser extent). Instantly, CBS and WB now need to figure out how to get the network further distributed up north or their programming out of the dregs that is the OMNI stations and Shomi; the Canadian upfronts are up in the next couple weeks and they just got more interesting than usual. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTSC1980 112 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Just doing a search for "CW WGN" on Twitter brings this up; WGN is the biggest provider of the CW in Canada since the Chicago signal is cleared for them rather than WGN America (the rest is from border stations, smaller Trib superstations like WPIX and KTLA and whatever deals WBTV and CBS Studios makes with the domestic networks/streaming providers for CW programming). If it goes to KCOP and WWOR if Fox got them, they have to cross their fingers Sunbeam doesn't hoard it in Boston (and the WHDH mess) and CBS grabs it for WSBK as KCOP isn't superstation-cleared (WWOR is, but to a much lesser extent). Instantly, CBS and WB now need to figure out how to get the network further distributed up north or their programming out of the dregs that is the OMNI stations and Shomi; the Canadian upfronts are up in the next couple weeks and they just got more interesting than usual.Didn't Tribune force every Canadian cable drop WGN? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2415 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Didn't Tribune force every Canadian cable drop WGN? I think it was WGN America, not WGN-TV itself. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadcowatbk 149 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Have to think WGN can carry on as an independent with an increased sports/movie schedule, though. can they compete with cable for the huge rights? will CW move off KTLA and KPIX? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Remember that WGN's sports play-by-play packages are, for the most part, airing on WCIU because of the CW affiliation. It won't be THAT hard to fill in the gaps in prime time. As for Canadian cable, heck, WPCH 17 is still offered nationwide as they cleared WTBS 17... not the national Superstation TBS feed that had been offered to American cable systems from 1981 onwards (the national TBS feed aired the famed direct-response ads and the occasional CNN-HLN simulcast). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 So that the CW has reached agreement with FOX? It wouldn't surprise me to eventually see WWOR and KCOP also flip to the CW. WLNY is not legally considered a NYC signal (and can't until CBS spins off their radio station group into a separate entity), and KCAL's off-pattern news programming is a money machine that CBS would be foolish to give up. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3951 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 If this is an isolated occurrence, then the effect on the CW shouldn't be too detrimental. Fox could easily move MyNetwork to a subchannel or time shift their programming on either WFLD or WPWR. Now if this spreads to other markets and FOX picks up the CW there, we may have a problem. It could be the slow demise of UPN all over again when United sold out to FOX.... WGN needs to be an independent station again...it's too bad Tribune destroyed the superstation with their independent programming and dropping the newscasts. I want my Tom Freakin' Skilling!!! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvcg66b3r 100 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The CW & Tribune Reach New Long-Term Affiliate Agreement Days after the CW unveiled to advertisers its 2016-17 lineup last Thursday, the network has closed a new deal with its biggest affiliate group, Tribune. The down-to-the wire new agreement assures that the CW will continue to be carried by the Tribune stations in 25% of the country, including the top three markets — New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. https://deadline.com/2016/05/the-cw-tribune-new-affiliate-agreement-2-1201761192/ How can this be, when it was reported that The CW was leaving WGN? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Here's the press release from CBS. The other 12 (including KTLA & WPIX) will keep the CW this fall. WPWR will carry The CW on September 1. https://deadline.com/2016/05/the-cw-tribune-new-affiliate-agreement-2-1201761192/ How can this be, when it was reported that The CW was leaving WGN? That article has since been updated. WGN is very sports-focused. It has a slate of more than 150 live Cubs, Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks games. That has led to regular pre-emptions of the CW while WGN has had to move as many as 30 games a year to another local station in Chicago. WGN will now become independent. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2415 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 https://deadline.com/2016/05/the-cw-tribune-new-affiliate-agreement-2-1201761192/ How can this be, when it was reported that The CW was leaving WGN? That has since been edited. And there you go folks. WPIX and KTLA keep The CW, WGN loses it (good for them) and everything else feels good. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14887-tribune-and-cw-at-an-impasse-over-ott-ambitions/page/4/#findComment-151798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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