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If KPLR drops CW and MNTV isn't available, what do they fill primetime with?

Launch another newscast at 8pm, and couple it with the 7pm news as counter-programming.

 

And TBH, if the MyTV affiliation does become available (should the CW land on KMOV 4.3) they probably will stick it in the late night hours, like most of their major market affils have already done.

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KDNL's agreement expires August 2020

 

The sad reality is that this isn't 1998 anymore when they only had Pensacola and Charleston, WV; Sinclair is now ABC's top affiliate group, and they're stuck with KDNL in order to keep SBG's business. Barring then inexplicably throwing them into the auction, a massive technical failure or someone at ABC corporate having some terrible secret about David Smith to wriggle them out of the deal, it's more worth it to keep the network on KDNL and keep SBG happy, lacking news content, Maury and all.

 

If ABC wanted to, they could have pulled their affiliation from KDNL for breach of contract in 2014, by not having a newscast of some kind for nearly a year.

 

In ABC's eyes, The Allman Report meets the requirements, since it is produced in St. Louis, airs before GMA, ABC World News, and ABC's late night programming, and provides "news" content to the community, even though it is bias.

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In ABC's eyes, The Allman Report meets the requirements, since it is produced in St. Louis, airs before GMA, ABC World News, and ABC's late night programming, and provides "news" content to the community, even though it is bias.

 

Bingo. This is the minimum of what they have to do to meet the contract:

 

1. Is it a "locally produced news Program"?

 

2. Is it "at least one-half hour"?

 

3. Does it air Monday to Friday?

 

4. Does it air before ABC's "morning news Program", its "evening news Program" and its "late night Programming"?

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Bingo. This is the minimum of what they have to do to meet the contract:

 

1. Is it a "locally produced news Program"?

 

2. Is it "at least one-half hour"?

 

3. Does it air Monday to Friday?

 

4. Does it air before ABC's "morning news Program", its "evening news Program" and its "late night Programming"?

I think this also make sense for WGNO ditched traditional newscasts for News With A Twist.

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The sad reality is that this isn't 1998 anymore when they only had Pensacola and Charleston, WV; Sinclair is now ABC's top affiliate group, and they're stuck with KDNL in order to keep SBG's business. Barring then inexplicably throwing them into the auction, a massive technical failure or someone at ABC corporate having some terrible secret about David Smith to wriggle them out of the deal, it's more worth it to keep the network on KDNL and keep SBG happy, lacking news content, Maury and all.
Not to mention that ABC may end up more conservative because of them, but I'd rather take that subject to the Sinclair thread (but yeah, KDNL will stay an ABC affiliate until 2019, and maybe even longer than that)
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Robert Feder just posted that WGN is gone from the CW in September; WPWR replaces it in Chicago (and now with MyNet out of primetime in two of the top three markets, they might be in danger themselves). Not sure about the rest of Trib across the nation yet.

 

Big news. Might have a major ripple effect nationwide.

 

Have to think WGN can carry on as an independent with an increased sports/movie schedule, though.

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Not to mention that ABC may end up more conservative because of them, but I'd rather take that subject to the Sinclair thread (but yeah, KDNL will stay an ABC affiliate until 2019, and maybe even longer than that)

 

I feel like we've mentioned this before. The political viewpoints of the owners of the ABC affiliates have no bearing on the network's political viewpoints. Just because Sinclair is conservative doesn't mean that it will spread to the network level.

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Big news. Might have a major ripple effect nationwide.

 

Have to think WGN can carry on as an independent with an increased sports/movie schedule, though.

 

Think about this... WGN will be going Independent for the first time in 21 years! It seems like just yesterday when WGN-TV was one, but even I can't believe it was so long ago when WGN-TV was an Independent.

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Just doing a search for "CW WGN" on Twitter brings this up; WGN is the biggest provider of the CW in Canada since the Chicago signal is cleared for them rather than WGN America (the rest is from border stations, smaller Trib superstations like WPIX and KTLA and whatever deals WBTV and CBS Studios makes with the domestic networks/streaming providers for CW programming). If it goes to KCOP and WWOR if Fox got them, they have to cross their fingers Sunbeam doesn't hoard it in Boston (and the WHDH mess) and CBS grabs it for WSBK as KCOP isn't superstation-cleared (WWOR is, but to a much lesser extent). Instantly, CBS and WB now need to figure out how to get the network further distributed up north or their programming out of the dregs that is the OMNI stations and Shomi; the Canadian upfronts are up in the next couple weeks and they just got more interesting than usual.

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Just doing a search for "CW WGN" on Twitter brings this up; WGN is the biggest provider of the CW in Canada since the Chicago signal is cleared for them rather than WGN America (the rest is from border stations, smaller Trib superstations like WPIX and KTLA and whatever deals WBTV and CBS Studios makes with the domestic networks/streaming providers for CW programming). If it goes to KCOP and WWOR if Fox got them, they have to cross their fingers Sunbeam doesn't hoard it in Boston (and the WHDH mess) and CBS grabs it for WSBK as KCOP isn't superstation-cleared (WWOR is, but to a much lesser extent). Instantly, CBS and WB now need to figure out how to get the network further distributed up north or their programming out of the dregs that is the OMNI stations and Shomi; the Canadian upfronts are up in the next couple weeks and they just got more interesting than usual.
Didn't Tribune force every Canadian cable drop WGN?
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Remember that WGN's sports play-by-play packages are, for the most part, airing on WCIU because of the CW affiliation. It won't be THAT hard to fill in the gaps in prime time.

 

As for Canadian cable, heck, WPCH 17 is still offered nationwide as they cleared WTBS 17... not the national Superstation TBS feed that had been offered to American cable systems from 1981 onwards (the national TBS feed aired the famed direct-response ads and the occasional CNN-HLN simulcast).

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So that the CW has reached agreement with FOX?

It wouldn't surprise me to eventually see WWOR and KCOP also flip to the CW. WLNY is not legally considered a NYC signal (and can't until CBS spins off their radio station group into a separate entity), and KCAL's off-pattern news programming is a money machine that CBS would be foolish to give up.

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If this is an isolated occurrence, then the effect on the CW shouldn't be too detrimental. Fox could easily move MyNetwork to a subchannel or time shift their programming on either WFLD or WPWR.

 

Now if this spreads to other markets and FOX picks up the CW there, we may have a problem. It could be the slow demise of UPN all over again when United sold out to FOX....

 

WGN needs to be an independent station again...it's too bad Tribune destroyed the superstation with their independent programming and dropping the newscasts. I want my Tom Freakin' Skilling!!!

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The CW & Tribune Reach New Long-Term Affiliate Agreement

 

Days after the CW unveiled to advertisers its 2016-17 lineup last Thursday, the network has closed a new deal with its biggest affiliate group, Tribune. The down-to-the wire new agreement assures that the CW will continue to be carried by the Tribune stations in 25% of the country, including the top three markets — New York, Los Angeles and Chicago.

 

https://deadline.com/2016/05/the-cw-tribune-new-affiliate-agreement-2-1201761192/

 

How can this be, when it was reported that The CW was leaving WGN?

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Here's the press release from CBS. The other 12 (including KTLA & WPIX) will keep the CW this fall.

 

WPWR will carry The CW on September 1.

 

https://deadline.com/2016/05/the-cw-tribune-new-affiliate-agreement-2-1201761192/

 

How can this be, when it was reported that The CW was leaving WGN?

 

That article has since been updated.

WGN is very sports-focused. It has a slate of more than 150 live Cubs, Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks games. That has led to regular pre-emptions of the CW while WGN has had to move as many as 30 games a year to another local station in Chicago. WGN will now become independent.
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