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Is it time to start the countdown timer for the following departures?

 

-Steve Doocey

-Brian Killmeade

-Eric Bolling

-Lou Dobbs

-"Judge?" Jeanne Pirro

-Jesse Watters

-"Judge?" Napalitano**

-Tucker Carlson

-Greg Gutfeld

 

**Napolitano was "suspended," not officially fired, for perpetuating the debunked President Obama wire-tapping story that Trump has pushed endlessly.

 

Napolitano's "suspension" lasted a whole 2 weeks before he was back on the air, still standing by it false claim

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All of Fox News' Saturday night lineup (Watters, Pirro, Gutfeld) feels like state run TV. While we're at it, get rid of the Saturday morning Cost Of Freedom block as well.

I scratch my head at why such schlock wins over the 65-dead demos.

 

These aforementioned people, along with Hannity and O'Really, have controlled and shaped conservative thought with an iron fist. Don't underestimate the impact of all this turmoil.

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Oh, of course, and so does Fox & Friends most of the time. But Pirro especially gives me Ri Chun-hee vibes

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They even speak in a similar manner if you've heard the North Korean anchor before.

 

She even had a daytime court show before she joined Fox. Sad.

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She even had a daytime court show before she joined Fox. Sad.

I remember that show, and like most daytime court shows, I didn't think much of it. I never thought she'd be on FNC shouting far-right and anti-left praises though. She also recently hosted some "home jury duty" type of show for the Fox broadcasting network, so game show host could be another viable career direction to take if conservative opinion programming doesn't work out for her.

I would beat off if that happens. What I did when Bill-O was fired was 1000x tamer.

LOL! "This one's for you, Lumpy!"

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And we have a brand new lawsuit. This time, its Diana Falzone filing a gender & disability suit.

 

In January, she wrote a "supervisor-approved" op-ed about suffering from endometriosis, and afterwards a supervisor informed her that she would be banned from ever appearing on any of the Fox News platforms.

 

She's getting the same lawyer that's representing former Fox News contributor Julie Roginsky.

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And we have a brand new lawsuit. This time, its Diana Falzone filing a gender & disability suit.

 

In January, she wrote a "supervisor-approved" op-ed about suffering from endometriosis, and afterwards a supervisor informed her that she would be banned from ever appearing on any of the Fox News platforms.

 

She's getting the same lawyer that's representing former Fox News contributor Julie Roginsky.

 

More lawsuits, more problems. I would not be surprised if the mighty Fox News empire (except for its "O&Os")* be burned to smithereens.

*Despite the fact that FNC and the Fox O&Os are owned by the same corporate parent, they operate separately.

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More lawsuits, more problems. I would not be surprised if the mighty Fox News empire (except for its "O&Os")* be burned to smithereens.

*Despite the fact that FNC and the Fox O&Os are owned by the same corporate parent, they operate separately.

Countdown clock on Suzanne Scott's tenure at FNC starts... now.

 

Death by a thousand papercuts.

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More lawsuits, more problems. I would not be surprised if the mighty Fox News empire (except for its "O&Os")* be burned to smithereens.

*Despite the fact that FNC and the Fox O&Os are owned by the same corporate parent, they operate separately.

"Sky News America" is looking a little more like the future of Fox News every day.

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Kids, Fox News is still Fox News. It won't become Sky News America anytime soon, Shep Smith won't be hosting Sky News Tonight, and we don't have any of those pesky Ofcom rules that mandate impartiality in TV news, so we're just going to continue seeing them spin their wheels with more of the same partisanship, just without the same iconic A-team talent.

 

Fox News still attracts millions of viewers and advertisers. Even throughout the O'Reilly boycott, I don't think the network saw a single dollar in lost ad revenue as all the advertisers reallocated their buys to other slots. The brand is not damaged — at least not yet.

 

Roger Ailes was replaced with his right hand man. He is now being replaced with his right hand woman. Suzanne Scott is nobody to get excited about. She worked for Ailes going back to the America's Talking days, and she's been involved with programming development in the last two decades so much so that she was the supposed enforcer of the skirt rule.

 

With that kind of background, don't expect any sort of drastic changes to the center. If anything, they'll double down on the only thing they know how to do. Without all the primetime giants of the late 90s/early 2000s (O'Reilly, Hannity possibly, Greta), we'll continue to see more of this B-team crap like the Fox News Specialists and the Five. It'll resemble something like MSNBC circa 2011 actually: the same show every hour, each one melting into one another with same agenda, different names, and forgettable talent. Nothing will stick out of the noise anymore, the channel will get boring, and the audience will gradually look somewhere else.

 

Where are they going to go? Honestly, TCM. The 65+ crowd isn't going to follow anybody to some backwater upstart like OANN or even the Blaze. Those networks probably don't have the money to attract any of that talent, and starting a cable network in 2017 isn't as easy as it was in 1996. Just ask Glenn Beck. As for the next generation of right wing media consumers, they probably aren't going to watch television. One of Ailes' biggest mistakes was being skeptical of online media. Instead of Fox nabbing up the conservative voice online, we now have Breitbart and such and such. We're witnessing the fracturing of conservative media, not unlike the fracturing of the Republican party. FNC is no longer the hub of all of it.

 

Until the Murdochs decide that it's in their best business (and/or legal) interests to change programming strategy by bringing in new blood into the channel, very little will change.

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As for the next generation of right wing media consumers, they probably aren't going to watch television. One of Ailes' biggest mistakes was being skeptical of online media. Instead of Fox nabbing up the conservative voice online, we now have Breitbart and such and such.

Fox News actually sort-of tried this with a website they have called "Fox Nation," but it's pretty much nothing compared to giants like Breitbart and I guess it came a little too late and they never really advertised it much or put much effort into it, so it's not the top online conservative opinion site and probably never was since its inception.

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Roger Ailes was replaced with his right hand man. He is now being replaced with his right hand woman. Suzanne Scott is nobody to get excited about. She worked for Ailes going back to the America's Talking days, and she's been involved with programming development in the last two decades so much so that she was the supposed enforcer of the skirt rule.

 

With that kind of background, don't expect any sort of drastic changes to the center. If anything, they'll double down on the only thing they know how to do. Without all the primetime giants of the late 90s/early 2000s (O'Reilly, Hannity possibly, Greta), we'll continue to see more of this B-team crap like the Fox News Specialists and the Five. It'll resemble something like MSNBC circa 2011 actually: the same show every hour, each one melting into one another with same agenda, different names, and forgettable talent. Nothing will stick out of the noise anymore, the channel will get boring, and the audience will gradually look somewhere else.

 

Where are they going to go? Honestly, TCM. The 65+ crowd isn't going to follow anybody to some backwater upstart like OANN or even the Blaze. Those networks probably don't have the money to attract any of that talent, and starting a cable network in 2017 isn't as easy as it was in 1996. Just ask Glenn Beck. As for the next generation of right wing media consumers, they probably aren't going to watch television. One of Ailes' biggest mistakes was being skeptical of online media. Instead of Fox nabbing up the conservative voice online, we now have Breitbart and such and such. We're witnessing the fracturing of conservative media, not unlike the fracturing of the Republican party.

Conservative media has effectively taken over the Republican Party. It's almost impossible to separate one from the other. They got marching orders from O'Reilly, Hannity and the like every single day.

 

And like everyone else before her, something is going to pop up that makes Suzanne Scott radioactive. She has a paper trail that had been suppressed under Ailes. Expect the same level of PR disasters that will only exacerbate from here because they won't clean house as they should.

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Honestly, I'd really like to see this happen. The name "Fox News" has been synonymous with a lot of bad stuff for a long time and now it's even worse.

 

I'm surprised it hasn't started having a negative effect on the rest of the 21st Century Fox conglomerate.

 

[Renaming] it to Sky News will probably help a bit in the long run, but overall doing less opinion programming and less "two opposing voices shouting over each other" style shows and more hard news would be awesome to see, and keep the opinion shows to primetime.

 

THIS. It boggles my mind that there's no US answer to BBC World News, Sky News, Al Jazeera, France24, DeutcheWelle, etc.

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THIS. It boggles my mind that there's no US answer to BBC World News, Sky News, Al Jazeera, France24, DeutcheWelle, etc.

 

Well we had an answer to it in the form of CNN International. But over the years it seems like the channel has greatly diminished and now relies on CNN US programming more than ever before.

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And like everyone else before her, something is going to pop up that makes Suzanne Scott radioactive. She has a paper trail that had been suppressed under Ailes. Expect the same level of PR disasters that will only exacerbate from here because they won't clean house as they should.

 

This may be true, but until that happens, it's going to be status quo at FNC. The fact that the Murdochs have merely promoted from within twice already shows that they aren't ready to make substantive changes to FNC until when it's the financially necessary decision.

 

THIS. It boggles my mind that there's no US answer to BBC World News, Sky News, Al Jazeera, France24, DeutcheWelle, etc.

 

All of those channels that you've mentioned receive direct or indirect government subsidies or are required by law to be impartial. In the almost entirely unregulated, free market cable news industry in this country, real news doesn't sell. All that matters is what gets ratings.

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This may be true, but until that happens, it's going to be status quo at FNC. The fact that the Murdochs have merely promoted from within twice already shows that they aren't ready to make substantive changes to FNC until when it's the financially necessary decision.

They're trying to have it both ways. Give the illusion of change while doing everything possible to keep things the same.

 

Problem is, that's not going to work. With Ailes and Shine out of the picture, there's no one to suppress the bad leaks. It's not going to get any better for Fox News, rather, worse... much worse. Until the Murdochs get the hint that they might have to clean house to save their sorry asses, it's a downward spiral they've set up for themselves.

 

I expect a big-time leak that embarrasses and discredits Suzanne Scott out of her position to emerge within a week.

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They're trying to have it both ways. Give the illusion of change while doing everything possible to keep things the same.

 

Problem is, that's not going to work. With Ailes and Shine out of the picture, there's no one to suppress the bad leaks. It's not going to get any better for Fox News, rather, worse... much worse. Until the Murdochs get the hint that they might have to clean house to save their sorry asses, it's a downward spiral they've set up for themselves.

I have no doubt that something like this will do more harm than not to Murdoch's attempted Sky takeover. Surely it'll make him look unfit to the UK regulators if they keep on messing around with Fox News and blatantly avoid the problems going on there rather than actually solving them. A group of prominent UK politicians are even going to meet with Ofcom about this, and they're specifically citing the Fox News problems as being a reason why Murdoch isn't fit to have complete control of Sky, because either the Murdochs knew of the sexual harassment and other issues going on at FNC and failed to act, or they didn't know and have a severe lack of supervision over their own companies. I think if this deal falls through for them a second time, it should be a big wakeup call to them.

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Rupert might not be done cleaning house.

 

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/murdochs-might-not-be-done-cleaning-house-at-fox-news.html

 

Another tid bit is that it looks like Hannity is blowing smoke about leaving. He tweeted last night saying he wasn't negotiating to leave and Sherman's sources said he's not leaving; "He didn’t leave for Ailes. He ain’t leaving for Shine"

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Rupert might not be done cleaning house.

 

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/murdochs-might-not-be-done-cleaning-house-at-fox-news.html

 

Another tid bit is that it looks like Hannity is blowing smoke about leaving. He tweeted last night saying he wasn't negotiating to leave and Sherman's sources said he's not leaving; "He didn’t leave for Ailes. He ain’t leaving for Shine"

Lumpy has two months to make up his mind. As we've seen, a lot can change between then, especially if the bad news leaks persist.

 

Besides, Lumpy is a publicity hound and would 100% milk his departure - if he did go that route - for all that it's worth.

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And now a law firm that's representing some of the victims is asking Ofcom (the UK media regulator) to block the sale of Sky, because of this mess across the pond.

 

From CNN on Wednesday:

In the United Kingdom, media regulator Ofcom (Office of Communications) is reviewing whether or not 21st Century Fox is "fit and proper" to take full ownership of the lucrative Sky satellite and cable network. The Murdochs, who already own a 39% controlling stake in Sky, reached a deal to take full control of the remaining 61% of shares for about $14.8 billion.

 

When asked if the Ofcom review would include Fox's handling of Ailes, O'Reilly and Shine, a representative for the regulator told CNNMoney, "we will look at all relevant information." On Wednesday, Wigdor LLP, which represents 19 current and former Fox employees in connection with claims of discrimination, harassment, and retaliation, sent Ofcom a letter urging the regulator to oppose the Sky deal.

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These executives also pointed to a history of tolerance for bad behavior at 21st Century Fox, citing the 2011 phone-hacking scandal at the now-defunct News of the World. Then, as now, the Murdochs had made a bid for Sky. In that case, at least, they were forced to abandon it amid public pressure.

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