TVNewsLover 779 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 12 hours ago, Myron Falwell said: Sinclair makes a profit on KDNL and WNWO despite both stations being embarrassments in their respective markets. Hell, CBS makes a good chunk of change on WWJ/WKBD! When stations like those don’t spend any money (or in WNWO’s case, the absolute bare minimum), you can keep more revenue from ad sales and retrans fees. I mean, it’s simple maths. How is this possible, yet it’s also claimed that adding more news also makes stations more money? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-217560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnya2k6 171 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 On 11/28/2018 at 12:04 AM, GoldenShine9 said: I would think Atlanta is WSB domination? and Raleigh would be WRAL domination? Last I read...WGCL was making substantial gains all over the board, even closing in on WSB and WAGA in some slots (and sending WXIA to fourth place). Raleigh-Durham? I think WNCN has been ganging up on WTVD, but I’m not sure. In Minneapolis-St. Paul: I wouldn’t be surprised if KMSP overtook KARE for #2 (with KSTP now dead last) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-217580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3948 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 13 hours ago, TVNewsLover said: How is this possible, yet it’s also claimed that adding more news also makes stations more money? Local ad sales. If it's a local show, they can sell all the airtime they want to. Syndicated programming is tied down by their spots and/or barter spots that have to air in exchange for getting the show for free or at a low cost. Also, with some shows, they are called cash syndication, which means all of the ad time can be sold however they please... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-217592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 13 hours ago, TVNewsLover said: How is this possible, yet it’s also claimed that adding more news also makes stations more money? 14 minutes ago, tyrannical bastard said: Local ad sales. If it's a local show, they can sell all the airtime they want to. Syndicated programming is tied down by their spots and/or barter spots that have to air in exchange for getting the show for free or at a low cost. Also, with some shows, they are called cash syndication, which means all of the ad time can be sold however they please... Additionally the stations that are adding news are typically adding newscasts before their preexisting newscasts. They utilize the existing journalists and staff for the existing shows so they likely don’t have to pay additional salaries. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-217594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
H4UL4U 127 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 13 hours ago, TVNewsLover said: How is this possible, yet it’s also claimed that adding more news also makes stations more money? A newscast with a 0.4 rating can still make money. Plus certain advertisers only want their spots running during news shows (it is their money after all). When stations run out of inventory they add more news. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-217598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, H4UL4U said: A newscast with a 0.4 rating can still make money. Plus certain advertisers only want their spots running during news shows (it is their money after all). When stations run out of inventory they add more news. A newscast with NO rating can make money... A good sales(dept) weasel just bundles it up with other crap...just like your cable company does(or did). Sponsors often take chances on unrated fare depending on the approach of the sales department. You guys keep forgetting... "It's not always what the rating is....it's all about what you billed". Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-217600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4368 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 15 hours ago, TVNewsLover said: How is this possible, yet it’s also claimed that adding more news also makes stations more money? First of all, a station like WWJ has no expenses whatsoever. It's a pass-through station. That being said, they make money as a CBS O&O with no local newscasts of any sort. If they weren't, then CBS would have unloaded that station long ago and wiped their hands of that mess.. It is true, adding newscasts nets more revenue that a station can take directly as opposed to giving up a portion of ad revenue for syndicated inventory ... KSNV in the waning days of Jim Rogers, KCNC during their NBC O&O era, and WJW in the present day are three excellent examples of this. But as we've seen with additional newscasts, it's not an increase in quality, but more of the same... or additional fluff and soft feature reports. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-217609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3948 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 8 hours ago, Eat News said: A newscast with NO rating can make money... A good sales(dept) weasel just bundles it up with other crap...just like your cable company does(or did). Sponsors often take chances on unrated fare depending on the approach of the sales department. You guys keep forgetting... "It's not always what the rating is....it's all about what you billed". Ah yes...the rotator spot. "But your spot will be seen from 9am - 5pm in various time periods!" Frequency......and MAYBE some reach... And after an election, the flood of make-goods....especially if they paid higher rates (since political candidates have to be sold the lowest unit rate)..... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-217634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw-804 190 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 In Pittsburgh, KDKA's number one at noon, 4, 5, 6 and 11 in households. Its sister station WPCW is number one at 10. Meanwhile in the 25-54 demo, WPXI is number one at 5, 6 and 11 (WPGH is #1 at 10pm) while KDKA's #1 at noon and WTAE is first in the mornings (also in households) and 4pm (Ellen). https://www.post-gazette.com/ae/tv-radio/2018/11/30/Delayed-sweeps-ratings-released/stories/201811300504 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 5 hours ago, tw-804 said: In Pittsburgh, KDKA's number one at noon, 4, 5, 6 and 11 in households. Its sister station WPCW is number one at 10. Meanwhile in the 25-54 demo, WPXI is number one at 5, 6 and 11 (WPGH is #1 at 10pm) while KDKA's #1 at noon and WTAE is first in the mornings (also in households) and 4pm (Ellen). https://www.post-gazette.com/ae/tv-radio/2018/11/30/Delayed-sweeps-ratings-released/stories/201811300504 Once again, Pittsburgh remains a competitive market and one of the few left IMO with three very solid news operations. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2410 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 52 minutes ago, AJClementeFan69 said: Once again, Pittsburgh remains a competitive market and one of the few left IMO with three very solid news operations. If you look at it from A25-54, then yes. If you look at it from Total HH, then KDKA is the runaway winner. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 33 minutes ago, TheRolyPoly said: If you look at it from A25-54, then yes. If you look at it from Total HH, then KDKA is the runaway winner. I can tell you which one the people who pay the bills are looking at. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bixpchiphead 105 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 hours ago, TheRolyPoly said: If you look at it from A25-54, then yes. If you look at it from Total HH, then KDKA is the runaway winner. And has been since the days of Bill Burns....... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
news89 468 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 6 hours ago, TheRolyPoly said: If you look at it from A25-54, then yes. If you look at it from Total HH, then KDKA is the runaway winner. Remember it's and KD+You. Lol Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLT-DCA-ORF-PTI 87 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 On 11/28/2018 at 6:38 PM, elfuego35 said: Scott Jones of FTV Live reported that as of the last day of sweeps, WBTV was on track to beat WSOC Yes, I noticed some little changes on WSOC, like they have Erica and Scott on 5-630, 10, and 11, and Allison is basically a reporter now, changed the backdrop of the set, and Paul Boyd (yuck) reporting in the morning. It is definitely becoming a mess at 9, hopefully Cox will move that ND soon. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePulse 318 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 12/5/2018 at 7:56 PM, CLT-DCA-ORF-PTI said: Yes, I noticed some little changes on WSOC, like they have Erica and Scott on 5-630, 10, and 11, and Allison is basically a reporter now, changed the backdrop of the set, and Paul Boyd (yuck) reporting in the morning. It is definitely becoming a mess at 9, hopefully Cox will move that ND soon. Same strategy here on the Big Red 9. They are doubling down on Martha and Greg nonstop from 5-6:30 and 11 (I STILL want Greg and Vanessa just for the 6:00). It’s a Cox thing, nothing more. And at least here, it’s working. Though they have WESH to contend with (splitting victories) and News6GettingResults claiming the Monday-Sunday 11:00 numbers (9 has the Monday-Friday numbers) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLETVFan 367 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 WKYC has announced they're number one at 11pm among viewers 25-54. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agmfox8 0 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 WVUE-CHANNEL-8 WAS THE #1 STATION IN NEW ORLEANS Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1519 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 34 minutes ago, ann said: WVUE-CHANNEL-8 WAS THE #1 STATION IN NEW ORLEANS Why are you shouting? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4745 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 15 minutes ago, mre29 said: Why are you shouting? They are only letters on a screen...there is no actual audio or "shouting". Cover your ears if it hurts you.. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 2 hours ago, ann said: WVUE-CHANNEL-8 WAS THE #1 STATION IN NEW ORLEANS Can I make a suggestion? Stop the shouting on every post, please? Thanks Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agmfox8 0 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 THE REASON WHY I SHOUTUNG IS BECAUSE I CAN NOT HOLD THE SHIFT KEY THAT IS THE ONLY READON WHY AM SOUTING Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3303 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 36 minutes ago, ann said: THE REASON WHY I SHOUTUNG IS BECAUSE I CAN NOT HOLD THE SHIFT KEY THAT IS THE ONLY READON WHY AM SOUTING Turn off Caps Lock. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 38 minutes ago, ann said: THE REASON WHY I SHOUTUNG IS BECAUSE I CAN NOT HOLD THE SHIFT KEY THAT IS THE ONLY READON WHY AM SOUTING Have you ever thought about turning the Caps Lock off? If you turn it off, then you won't have to rely on the shift key to not have words capitalized (unless the Computer you're using doesn't have the Caps Lock which a lot of the Chromebooks don't have the Caps Lock or any of the fancy stuff on it anymore) Anyway, the fact that WVUE is #1 in New Orleans doesn't surprise me (same with WDSU jumping to 2nd place) as it's been well-documented with the issues at WWL since TEGNA has taken over and even with WGNO being the last place station as they are. (And even if Nexstar pulls off an WATN-like relaunch, the highest WGNO might get is 3rd and that's only because of TEGNA unlike in Memphis where TEGNA doesn't own a station there). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColDayNews 438 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, ann said: THE REASON WHY I SHOUTUNG IS BECAUSE I CAN NOT HOLD THE SHIFT KEY THAT IS THE ONLY READON WHY AM SOUTING Huh? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16788-november-2018-sweeps-results/page/3/#findComment-218300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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