The Ever-Evolving Gray Graphics Situation...Thread

[DENDude 217]

It Seems odd, but what do i know.   KKCO has updated it's logo without the NBC Peacock,This is the vertical logo, they have a horizontal logo but I can't capture it.

 

 

[GoldenShine9 1513]

Removing the networks also makes it easier to brand a station that has multiple affiliations within its envelope too.

1 hour ago, HSV cheesehead said:

Its entirely possible that there's now two version of GrayONE, with version A being what we have seen with WAFF, KMOV, WCSC, etc and version B being what we are seeing on KNOP and KNSB. Other than the ticker and font there certainly are similarities between the two. Its possible there test alternative packages in smaller markets.

 

Additionally, this could be an alternative to be primarily used by ABC affiliates, but optional for others.

I'd think also those stations would be near the bottom of the priority order for GrayOne being some of their smallest markets. Perhaps once KOLN/KGIN changes over, they will do it en masse for the Nebraska stations.

[mightynine 290]

The alternate graphics in question are just a reskin of an already existing pre-GreyOne template, so maybe there's a technical issue unique to those stations (i.e., incompatible equipment with GreyOne) and this is a band-aid until Grey decides to pony up the cash to fix it.

[T.L. Hughes 889]

26 minutes ago, mightynine said:

The alternate graphics in question are just a reskin of an already existing pre-GreyOne template, so maybe there's a technical issue unique to those stations (i.e., incompatible equipment with GreyOne) and this is a band-aid until Grey decides to pony up the cash to fix it.

So, what graphics system does GrayONE run on (presuming it wasn't developed to be compatible with other systems) and what system does KSNB and KNOP run their graphics on?

[TennTV1983 804]

1 hour ago, T.L. Hughes said:

So, what graphics system does GrayONE run on (presuming it wasn't developed to be compatible with other systems) and what system does KSNB and KNOP run their graphics on?

 

GrayONE, from what I've understood, was being developed for usage on systems running on either Chyron or VizRT.

[I’m a news junkie..so what 42]

WMC has started to use some elements of GrayOne on their promos. They've only used the upper thirds for weather graphics on promos and the lower third.

This is what their new icons look like on VUit

[HSV cheesehead 99]

6 hours ago, HSV cheesehead said:

Its entirely possible that there's now two version of GrayONE, with version A being what we have seen with WAFF, KMOV, WCSC, etc and version B being what we are seeing on KNOP and KNSB. Other than the ticker and font there certainly are similarities between the two. Its possible there test alternative packages in smaller markets.

 

Additionally, this could be an alternative to be primarily used by ABC affiliates, but optional for others.

 

4 hours ago, GoldenShine9 said:

Removing the networks also makes it easier to brand a station that has multiple affiliations within its envelope too.

I'd think also those stations would be near the bottom of the priority order for GrayOne being some of their smallest markets. Perhaps once KOLN/KGIN changes over, they will do it en masse for the Nebraska stations.

Can't believe I didn't think about this before, but perhaps their software has yet to be updated so they changed the graphics to something that was similar so it is less stark of a change when they do get GrayONE.

[compubit 673]

9 hours ago, HSV cheesehead said:

Its entirely possible that there's now two version of GrayONE, with version A being what we have seen with WAFF, KMOV, WCSC, etc and version B being what we are seeing on KNOP and KNSB. Other than the ticker and font there certainly are similarities between the two. Its possible there test alternative packages in smaller markets.

 

Additionally, this could be an alternative to be primarily used by ABC affiliates, but optional for others.

Or perhaps two versions where Gray has 2 separate stations with separate news departments and identities (e.g,, KÖLN/KGIN and KSNB/KNOP).

 

Just a thought (and apologies if I’ve missed  this concept in an earlier post).

 

Jim

[GoldenShine9 1513]

7 hours ago, T.L. Hughes said:

So, what graphics system does GrayONE run on (presuming it wasn't developed to be compatible with other systems) and what system does KSNB and KNOP run their graphics on?

 

No ex-Hoak stations currently use GrayONE, so that could be an issue.

[CoopInTheHouse 68]

Yesterday at 5pm, KTTC made a music switch from “The Rock” to “This is The Place”, which seems to be the new standard for Gray stations.

Edit just minutes after I posted this: WNDU has changed to GrayONE, also changing their music from “Aerial” to “Inergy”, both from Stephen Arnold Music.

Edited December 21, 2023 by CoopInTheHouse

[T.L. Hughes 889]

Here's WNDU in action:

 

4 hours ago, CoopInTheHouse said:

Yesterday at 5pm, KTTC made a music switch from “The Rock” to “This is The Place”, which seems to be the new standard for Gray stations.

Edit just minutes after I posted this: WNDU has changed to GrayONE, also changing their music from “Aerial” to “Inergy”, both from Stephen Arnold Music.

 

[MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie 915]

8 hours ago, CoopInTheHouse said:

Yesterday at 5pm, KTTC made a music switch from “The Rock” to “This is The Place”, which seems to be the new standard for Gray stations.

Edit just minutes after I posted this: WNDU has changed to GrayONE, also changing their music from “Aerial” to “Inergy”, both from Stephen Arnold Music.

Actually the music is the other way around... Inergy to Aerial

[HSV cheesehead 99]

Along with removing the peacock, is Gray removing any music containing the NBC Chimes?

[NBC 5 Chicago 191]

Yes. 

 

[HSV cheesehead 99]

1 hour ago, NBC 5 Chicago said:

Yes. 

 

That brings me to this:

As many of you know WAFF has been using two different packages; The Rock & Inergy. You can now add a third to that list, its either production music or a cut of Stream (please correct me if i am wrong, this has been driving me crazy for months). My evidence is below

 

[Dakota Laughlin 28]

WSAZ has switched to a new music package as of today's newscasts, switching from "The Rock".. I'm not overly familiar with package names, I'm sure someone else will recognize it. https://www.vuit.com/publishers/348/wsaz#vod:23053427 

They are also prepping for the launch of GrayOne soon from what I've heard but haven't released a timeline as of yet. 

[Dakota Laughlin 28]

22 minutes ago, Dakota Laughlin said:

WSAZ has switched to a new music package as of today's newscasts, switching from "The Rock".. I'm not overly familiar with package names, I'm sure someone else will recognize it. https://www.vuit.com/publishers/348/wsaz#vod:23053427 

They are also prepping for the launch of GrayOne soon from what I've heard but haven't released a timeline as of yet. 

After further research it seems to be "Ascend" Stephen Arnold Music

[NCbroadcastgeek 2]

It seems that WECT is transitioning to newer cuts of their current music package, Inergy. During the beginning of the 5 o’clock news yesterday, they used the WJXT theme cut in (didn’t capture that recording since it was at 4:59 PM). See below for YouTube reference. Upon watching the 6 o’clock news, it seems that they are using a new closing theme that also sounds like Inergy (would someone confirm please)? Never heard them used this cut before. 
 

My speculation is that WECT is keeping Inergy but will only use the non-NBC cuts of the package. I hope this is true hopefully they also get GrayONE soon as well in time for their 70th anniversary 

 

WJXT reference: 

 

Edited December 23, 2023 by NCbroadcastgeek
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[compubit 673]

14 hours ago, NBC 5 Chicago said:

Yes. 

 

Some will be easy to “fix”, I.e., Inergy NBC > Inergy, etc.  Others will require a new theme…

[who?cares 254]

20 hours ago, HSV cheesehead said:

That brings me to this:

As many of you know WAFF has been using two different packages; The Rock & Inergy. You can now add a third to that list, its either production music or a cut of Stream (please correct me if i am wrong, this has been driving me crazy for months). My evidence is below

 

 

They've used a production cut for pre-recorded headlines for a while (I was there in the mid and late 2010's).

They were using it when I was there.

The previous news director thought Inergy wasn't urgent enough, so they added The Rock.

Apparently, they've added the production track to it. 

It sounds like they've taken that cut and put it into their music computer.

It was literally a computer they opened the track on and played through VLC or Windows Media Player.

[CoopInTheHouse 68]

According to newsmusicsearcharchive.com, you can add KKCO and KJCT to the “This is The Place” naughty use or nice use of theme list now.

[Recovering Producer 218]

41 minutes ago, CoopInTheHouse said:

According to newsmusicsearcharchive.com, you can add KKCO and KJCT to the “This is The Place” naughty use or nice use of theme list now.

This also means "This is the Place" is running on three Western Slope stations if KFQX is still simulcasting some KDVR newscasts. 

[MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie 915]

I hate to be the grinch, but the change in music doesn't belong in this part of the forums.. Can  a mod please bring these posts to the music part??

[24994J 5575]

16 minutes ago, MichiganNewsGraphicsJunkie said:

I hate to be the grinch, but the change in music doesn't belong in this part of the forums.. Can  a mod please bring these posts to the music part??

 

It's tangentially related. So much of the music changes and debranding efforts are coinciding with the graphics rollout. It won't last forever, and we'll get back to the graphics in no time.

[ABC 7 Denver 1714]

13 hours ago, Recovering Producer said:

This also means "This is the Place" is running on three Western Slope stations if KFQX is still simulcasting some KDVR newscasts. 

 

And it's used at KKTV as well. So, This is the Place is used across the whole state. Also it will soon be the package KDVR has used the longest. Lastly, KCNC and KUSA are the only stations in Colorado not using a Stephen Arnold Music package.