TheRolyPoly 2358 Posted November 5, 2024 Share Posted November 5, 2024 I thought I'd start this because I feel y'all will post graphics, themes, presentations, etc. regarding tonight's election night coverage here. Not only that, I wanted to find out when the networks will be on to deliver their election coverage. However, as I was researching this, I found out that NOT every local station will follow the network's plans as scheduled (you'll see here in this post) so I highly recommend checking with your local station's listings but the majority will be status quo. This is what I found by checking TV listing sites like TitanTV, TV Passport, etc. (and all in Eastern time so it may differ by timezone as well, depending on where you live) PBS from 6:00pm-2:00am CBS from 6:30-11:00pm + 11:35pm-2:00am + for O&Os, a special CBS Mornings at 6:00am on Wednesday (meaning for some like WFOR in my market, they'll air four hours of CBS Mornings from 6:00-10:00am, including the new third hour at 9:00am.). NBC from 6:30-11:00pm + 11:35pm-5:00am (or 4:30am if local news begins by then) + NBC Nightly News on Wednesday on O&Os and some affiliates from 6:30-7:30pm. FOX from 7:00-10:00pm + 11:00pm-1:00am (however as an example, my favorite, WSVN 7 will NOT be taking FOX. No surprise there. Instead, they're going all local from 7:00pm-12:30am). However, this was the most inconsistent as some affiliates will rejoin at 11:00pm back to FOX or at midnight or whatnot so its hard to track the FOX side in this area. ABC from 6:30-11:00pm + 11:35pm-2:00am. The CW from 8:00-10:00pm (via NewsNation and their coverage. This will be The CW's first time providing election night coverage and major news coverage of this magnitude). Univision and Telemundo from 6:30-11:00pm + 11:35pm-3:00am (because they have network feeds, they are more consistent in their scheduling than the English-language ones. Plus, the feeds will keep going at 11:00pm while their O&Os and affiliates will go to local news). As I've said, check your local stations because they may be different than what I've posted here. Just because my local FOX affiliate won't take FOX tonight, doesn't mean yours won't either. 2 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathannah 2401 Posted November 5, 2024 Share Posted November 5, 2024 •Sinclair CW stations will not be carrying the CW/NewsNation simulcast and the plan is for The National News Desk to go from 8pm ET to late night (technically midnight but they say they'll be going on all night). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 1042 Posted November 5, 2024 Share Posted November 5, 2024 (edited) From Amazon Election Night Live with Brian Williams A long list of current and former journalists (Shepherd Smith, etc..) from around the country, etc.. joined Williams in what appears to be a curved LED wall studio in LA. Edited November 6, 2024 by Jase 4 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaZone4K 2158 Posted November 5, 2024 Share Posted November 5, 2024 (edited) On 11/5/2024 at 5:30 PM, Jase said: From Amazon Election Night Live with Brian Williams It’s AR/VR set featuring Williams with a long list of current and former journalists (Shepherd Smith, etc..) from around the country, etc.. Brian and Shep together. How I wish this were on a broadcast network! It looks like NBC News is consolidating their feeds. NBC News now is simply branding his NBC News. MSNBC amd CNBC are doing their own thing. Edited November 9, 2024 by MediaZone4K Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.L. Hughes 881 Posted November 5, 2024 Share Posted November 5, 2024 (edited) 14 hours ago, TheRolyPoly said: Univision and Telemundo from 6:30-11:00pm + 11:35pm-3:00am (because they have network feeds, they are more consistent in their scheduling than the English-language ones. Plus, the feeds will keep going at 11:00pm while their O&Os and affiliates will go to local news). As I've said, check your local stations because they may be different than what I've posted here. Just because my local FOX affiliate won't take FOX tonight, doesn't mean yours won't either. The latter note is also true of Univision and Telemundo stations. In many markets, affiliates of one or both networks don’t offer local news (Oklahoma City, where Tyler Media controls the Univision, UniMás and Telemundo affiliations, is one such example as Telemundo affiliate KTUZ airs locally produced weeknight newscasts while Univision sister KUOK runs that network’s national feed during the 5:00 and 10:00 pm CT local news slots). So, some will run election coverage straight from 6:30 to 3:00 ET. Edited November 5, 2024 by T.L. Hughes Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYAZSporty 123 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 Here in Phoenix, KPHO (CBS) & KPNX (NBC) are showing network coverage as scheduled (latter scrolling info right now about local coverage on 12+ streaming app later on). KSAZ (FOX) & KNXV (ABC) are airing their reg. scheduled newscast at 5. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Lampstein 98 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 3 hours ago, Jase said: From Amazon Election Night Live with Brian Williams It’s AR/VR set featuring Williams with a long list of current and former journalists (Shepherd Smith, etc..) from around the country, etc.. I think it's actually a giant LED wall studio? They aren't using any AR graphics. They're bringing guests on via a TV screen on a rolling cart... Brian looks/sounds good, but he needed to be teamed up with a stronger group around him. The insert graphics are absolutely awful... poor design, sloppy templates, and the CG system they're using seems to be struggling with them. 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYAZSporty 123 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 (edited) KPNX (NBC Phoenix) along with I assume other TEGNA stations utilizing for Election Night the ticker we saw WNEP (ABC Scranton/Wilkes Barre) testing out just over a week ago promting as well where viewers can watch local election coverage via + apps. Noticing this even now, not sure about other TEGNA stations, but KPNX still has the ticker running through commercials & even now during syndicated programming they're airing, Live with Kelly & Mark. Edited November 6, 2024 by NYCsporty 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Rubber 700 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 3 hours ago, Dave Lampstein said: I think it's actually a giant LED wall studio? They aren't using any AR graphics. They're bringing guests on via a TV screen on a rolling cart... Brian looks/sounds good, but he needed to be teamed up with a stronger group around him. The insert graphics are absolutely awful... poor design, sloppy templates, and the CG system they're using seems to be struggling with them. Agreed about the graphics. What are those lower thirds? There are private YouTubers (and maybe even college stations) that have nicer graphics than that. What are those shapes? What is that font? 1 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 1042 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 4 hours ago, Dave Lampstein said: I think it's actually a giant LED wall studio? They aren't using any AR graphics. They're bringing guests on via a TV screen on a rolling cart... You are correct… it’s a giant LED wall (which was okay). They definitely could have chosen a better background image and graphics overall. You would have thought Amazon would have invested some real $$$ into this venture. 1 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLNewsExpert 453 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, Spring Rubber said: Agreed about the graphics. What are those lower thirds? There are private YouTubers (and maybe even college stations) that have nicer graphics than that. What are those shapes? What is that font? I know we have better graphics and we are a high school operation!! To the actual presentation of Amazon's offering, I'm a bit disappointed but I didn't go in expecting much given this clearly was made for profit. Edited November 6, 2024 by ATLNewsExpert 1 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1513 Posted November 6, 2024 Share Posted November 6, 2024 I never even checked out Amazon's thing. I did a little channel-surfing early in the evening, but eventually stayed on MSNBC (which I had muted for a sizable chunk of the night) and websites. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reweivvt88 46 Posted November 7, 2024 Share Posted November 7, 2024 The ratings are in for last night. FOX News Channel won overall, followed by ABC News which was closely followed by MSNBC. MSNBC beat NBC again (after beating them in 2020 & the 2022 mid-terms) and beat CNN for the first time (although they did beat CNN for the 2022 mid-terms). CNN had its lowest ratings since 1996. So while the country may have elected a far right leader, it's still a very divided country and there is clearly still an audience for the left leaning news MSNBC provides. If Comcast does spin off the NBCU cable networks I hope the new company realizes this and doesn't turn MSNBC into just another bland low rated "both sides" news channel. 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaZone4K 2158 Posted November 7, 2024 Share Posted November 7, 2024 1 hour ago, Reweivvt88 said: The ratings are in for last night. FOX News Channel won overall, followed by ABC News which was closely followed by MSNBC. MSNBC beat NBC again (after beating them in 2020 & the 2022 mid-terms) and beat CNN for the first time (although they did beat CNN for the 2022 mid-terms). CNN had its lowest ratings since 1996. So while the country may have elected a far right leader, it's still a very divided country and there is clearly still an audience for the left leaning news MSNBC provides. If Comcast does spin off the NBCU cable networks I hope the new company realizes this and doesn't turn MSNBC into just another bland low rated "both sides" news channel. Granted I don't like MSNBC but I found myself tuning into them and Fox News (not for neutral information) but to get both sides of election analysis commentary. Where was Fox getting their information from to call the election earlier than other networks? I tuned into CNN's panel discussions particularly with Abby Phillip. While I appreciated their attempt to have diverse opinions unlike the echo chamber on MSNBC, the conversation was messy and argumentative. NBC used to be my go-to for elections and I loved how they went all out with the ice skating rink and Democracy Plaza. But things have been so subdued since 2016. At least the ice skating rink and projecting results off the side of the building are still done. The ABC lead coverage by David Muir was pretty good, CBS not bad as well. 2 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 1042 Posted November 9, 2024 Share Posted November 9, 2024 (edited) On 11/6/2024 at 11:55 PM, MediaZone4K said: I tuned into CNN's panel discussions particularly with Abby Phillip. While I appreciated their attempt to have diverse opinions unlike the echo chamber on MSNBC, the conversation was messy and argumentative. CNN panel discussions (if you can call them that) hurt them more than help. Phillip is incapable of moderating/leading panel discussions and quite frankly, is out of her depth. Edited November 9, 2024 by Jase 1 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrknowitall526 115 Posted November 9, 2024 Share Posted November 9, 2024 I enjoyed ABC's coverage. David Muir has become one of my favorites. I was especially surprised to go to bed and wake up at 5:30 AM and STILL see him and the entire team still on! Did the other networks go that late with their whole teams? That was almost 10 hours. 2 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaZone4K 2158 Posted November 9, 2024 Share Posted November 9, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jase said: CNN panel discussions (if you can call them that) hurt them more than help. Phillip is incapable of moderating/leading panel discussions and quite frankly, is out of her depth. Abby Phillip has this odd disinterested expression on her face. She comes alive a little during panel discussions, but otherwise there's something off about her anchoring. 51 minutes ago, Mrknowitall526 said: I enjoyed ABC's coverage. David Muir has become one of my favorites. I was especially surprised to go to bed and wake up at 5:30 AM and STILL see him and the entire team still on! Did the other networks go that late with their whole teams? That was almost 10 hours. I like Muir, he has a great switch between soft news, roving reporter, and hard newsman. These days I find myself going to ABC for breaking news coverage more than NBC. On 11/6/2024 at 11:18 PM, Reweivvt88 said: So while the country may have elected a far right leader, it's still a very divided country and there is clearly still an audience for the left leaning news MSNBC provides. If Comcast does spin off the NBCU cable networks I hope the new company realizes this and doesn't turn MSNBC into just another bland low rated "both sides" news channel. In theory, I think a cable network with partisan hosts from both parties could work. Something like Ben Shapiro and Rachel Maddow having primetime slots on the same channel. It's sad that cable news must resort to partisanship for profit, while companies like News Nation, and sometimes CNN, who play the middle, fail. Yes, both liberals and conservatives deserve a space to broadcast to like-minded individuals. The problems come when facts are twisted to support a certain narrative, and audiences only get their news from bias sources clouding their view of reality. Fox, MSNBC, and CNN all need to go. But this is about money, so the first two on that list will be sticking around. Edited November 9, 2024 by MediaZone4K 1 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5551 Posted November 9, 2024 Share Posted November 9, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mrknowitall526 said: I enjoyed ABC's coverage. David Muir has become one of my favorites. I was especially surprised to go to bed and wake up at 5:30 AM and STILL see him and the entire team still on! Did the other networks go that late with their whole teams? That was almost 10 hours. Norah was still on, but Kate Snow and Craig Melvin were at the desk for NBC. He then went to 1A with Hoda for a 6am Today show. Edited November 9, 2024 by 24994J 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Lampstein 98 Posted November 10, 2024 Share Posted November 10, 2024 This was an interesting behind-the-scenes of election prep at NBC News: 3 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1513 Posted November 11, 2024 Share Posted November 11, 2024 On 11/8/2024 at 9:45 PM, Mrknowitall526 said: I enjoyed ABC's coverage. David Muir has become one of my favorites. I was especially surprised to go to bed and wake up at 5:30 AM and STILL see him and the entire team still on! Did the other networks go that late with their whole teams? That was almost 10 hours. That reminds me of when Peter Jennings attempted to stay on-air for 24 hours to cover every timezone in the New Year changeover on 12/31/99--1/1/00. By 3:00am, I knew I wanted to see who'd drop first, him or me. By 4:00am, his suit jacket was gone and he was doing a lot of staring off into the distance between words. I can only assume he was either staying at a hotel nearby or had someone to drive him home. 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reweivvt88 46 Posted November 14, 2024 Share Posted November 14, 2024 On 11/8/2024 at 10:28 PM, MediaZone4K said: Abby Phillip has this odd disinterested expression on her face. She comes alive a little during panel discussions, but otherwise there's something off about her anchoring. I like Muir, he has a great switch between soft news, roving reporter, and hard newsman. These days I find myself going to ABC for breaking news coverage more than NBC. In theory, I think a cable network with partisan hosts from both parties could work. Something like Ben Shapiro and Rachel Maddow having primetime slots on the same channel It's sad that cable news must resort to partisanship for profit, while companies like News Nation, and sometimes CNN, who play the middle, fail. Yes, both liberals and conservatives deserve a space to broadcast to like-minded individuals. The problems come when facts are twisted to support a certain narrative, and audiences only get their news from bias sources clouding their view of reality. Fox, MSNBC, and CNN all need to go. But this is about money, so the first two on that list will be sticking around. One thing I don't think non-MSNBC viewers understand about MSNBC is that it's not the FOX News Channel of the left. MSNBC hosts express left wing opinions, but they still rely on facts. They are not spewing propaganda and lies like FOX News Channel does. FOX News Channel had to pay hundreds of millions in a settlement for spewing lies about the 2020 election and the voting machines, the text messages released in this lawsuit between FOX News hosts and anchors like Bret Baier just proved how this is a network that does zero journalism, it's a propaganda outlet that is terrified of angering its far right audience. They invested millions in 2020 so they could make quicker election calls, and then panicked when their early Arizona election call angered its audience, to the point where they held off calling Nevada for Biden because they didn't want to be first to call an election for Biden, instead choosing to wait to be the last network to make the call. This type of stuff is simply is not happening at MSNBC. There is no denying that MSNBC is news with a left wing view, but it's still news. In my view CNN & NewsNation are not doing responsible journalism by staying in the middle. We don't live in a reality where both political parties are equally bad doing equally bad things at the exact same time. The way CNN, NewsNation, NBC, CBS, ABC etc... go out of their way to criticize and praise both political parties equally all the time just to appear unbiased is so infuriating. CNN can't even agree to fact check a debate because they are scared of looking biased. A great way for CNN to counterprogram against MSNBC & FOX News would be to stop focusing on politics and cover all the other actual news going on, but CNN has instead decided to devote most of its schedule to covering politics and political opinions with people arguing all the time. They deserve their horrible ratings. It's also worth pointing out that MSNBC has actually tried having right wing opinion shows on the network along with left wing shows, and it's a massive failure every single time. It's extremely hard to have a successful news network targeting totally different audiences each hour, networks want to do everything they can to stop people from changing the channel, nothing ensures people will change the channel more than putting a left wing show after or before a show hosted by Ben Shapiro. One of the things that makes MSNBC so enjoyable to watch is the fact that all the hosts & guests get along with each other. It's the total opposite of CNN which at times looks like a Real Housewives reunion special with guests screaming at each other. 2 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaZone4K 2158 Posted November 14, 2024 Share Posted November 14, 2024 (edited) 10 hours ago, Reweivvt88 said: One thing I don't think non-MSNBC viewers understand about MSNBC is that it's not the FOX News Channel of the left. MSNBC hosts express left wing opinions, but they still rely on facts. They are not spewing propaganda and lies like FOX News Channel does. FOX News Channel had to pay hundreds of millions in a settlement for spewing lies about the 2020 election and the voting machines, the text messages released in this lawsuit between FOX News hosts and anchors like Bret Baier just proved how this is a network that does zero journalism, it's a propaganda outlet that is terrified of angering its far right audience. They invested millions in 2020 so they could make quicker election calls, and then panicked when their early Arizona election call angered its audience, to the point where they held off calling Nevada for Biden because they didn't want to be first to call an election for Biden, instead choosing to wait to be the last network to make the call. This type of stuff is simply is not happening at MSNBC. There is no denying that MSNBC is news with a left wing view, but it's still news. In my view CNN & NewsNation are not doing responsible journalism by staying in the middle. We don't live in a reality where both political parties are equally bad doing equally bad things at the exact same time. The way CNN, NewsNation, NBC, CBS, ABC etc... go out of their way to criticize and praise both political parties equally all the time just to appear unbiased is so infuriating. CNN can't even agree to fact check a debate because they are scared of looking biased. A great way for CNN to counterprogram against MSNBC & FOX News would be to stop focusing on politics and cover all the other actual news going on, but CNN has instead decided to devote most of its schedule to covering politics and political opinions with people arguing all the time. They deserve their horrible ratings. It's also worth pointing out that MSNBC has actually tried having right wing opinion shows on the network along with left wing shows, and it's a massive failure every single time. It's extremely hard to have a successful news network targeting totally different audiences each hour, networks want to do everything they can to stop people from changing the channel, nothing ensures people will change the channel more than putting a left wing show after or before a show hosted by Ben Shapiro. One of the things that makes MSNBC so enjoyable to watch is the fact that all the hosts & guests get along with each other. It's the total opposite of CNN which at times looks like a Real Housewives reunion special with guests screaming at each other. I've watched MSNBC by force because family members run it all the time at home. Agreed that MSNBC is not equivalent to Fox News, because they are not pushing lies. But MSNBC's facts credibility score is shaky. Media bias fact check.org gives them a mixed rating. The outlet takes factual information and bends it to their worldview. Like Fox News, MSNBC pedals one-sided news that keeps viewers in an echo chamber. That's why some of their hosts are shocked by the election's outcome, they're too busy regurgitating what each other says. Moreover, MSNBC isn't representative of everyone on the left. It's just a mouthpiece for the Democratic party establishment. Bernie Sanders was complaining that he didn't get a fair shake in coverage from the network during the 2020 election. I agree that CNN should stick to news, and I agree that MSNBC is easier to watch because it's not bickering television. But someone needs to provide a nuanced middle-of-the-line opinion, or left/right perspectives side by side. The failure to hear perspectives and everyone retreating to the channel serving their confirmation bias is part of why we cannot agree on facts in 2024. No one learns anything when they're constantly told their opposition is evil and stupid. Admittedly Trump is a difficult president to cover. He tells outright lies, and non-partisan news agencies such as CBS have to fact-check him without appearing to attack him. Yes, many issues we face in government today stem from the right, but the left is not blameless. Edited November 14, 2024 by MediaZone4K 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reweivvt88 46 Posted November 15, 2024 Share Posted November 15, 2024 (edited) 14 hours ago, MediaZone4K said: I've watched MSNBC by force because family members run it all the time at home. Agreed that MSNBC is not equivalent to Fox News, because they are not pushing lies. But MSNBC's facts credibility score is shaky. Media bias fact check.org gives them a mixed rating. The outlet takes factual information and bends it to their worldview. Like Fox News, MSNBC pedals one-sided news that keeps viewers in an echo chamber. That's why some of their hosts are shocked by the election's outcome, they're too busy regurgitating what each other says. Moreover, MSNBC isn't representative of everyone on the left. It's just a mouthpiece for the Democratic party establishment. Bernie Sanders was complaining that he didn't get a fair shake in coverage from the network during the 2020 election. I agree that CNN should stick to news, and I agree that MSNBC is easier to watch because it's not bickering television. But someone needs to provide a nuanced middle-of-the-line opinion, or left/right perspectives side by side. The failure to hear perspectives and everyone retreating to the channel serving their confirmation bias is part of why we cannot agree on facts in 2024. No one learns anything when they're constantly told their opposition is evil and stupid. Admittedly Trump is a difficult president to cover. He tells outright lies, and non-partisan news agencies such as CBS have to fact-check him without appearing to attack him. Yes, many issues we face in government today stem from the right, but the left is not blameless. I think we live in a time where one political party has made an extreme shift yet everyone except MSNBC is covering politics like it's 1994 instead of 2024. Every other source of TV political news, including NBC News, is so afraid of looking partisan they either go out of their way to justify & sane wash Republicans or they negatively cover Democrats unfairly to appear balanced. I don't think this is good journalism. Both sides can't agree on facts because one side is disputing facts and NBC/CBS/ABC/CNN/NewsNation, etc. is giving them a platform to do it. I don't want to watch manufactured political news coverage that is worried about saying anything that will upset half the country, if a political party does something evil, I want them to call it evil, I don't want to see it justified no matter what, I don't want to watch TV news where there is no moral red line, I know when I watch MSNBC, they will tell it like it is, they aren't worried about upsetting Republicans, they aren't worried about trying to make Republicans & Democrats look equally good or bad. They also are not the anti-Republican news channel, they are the anti extreme news channel. They do have moderate Republicans on, and as you brought up, Bernie Sanders who is on the extreme left didn't like how MSNBC covered him in 2020, Tulsi Gabbard who was an extreme crazy Democrat running for president in 2020 also was upset with how MSNBC covered her. The bad actors on the left don't get a free pass from MSNBC. I don't agree with everything I see on MSNBC or every view expressed by MSNBC hosts or guests, but I know overall the network is in the same reality I am. I can't say that about any other television source for political news. Edited November 15, 2024 by Reweivvt88 typo 1 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaZone4K 2158 Posted November 15, 2024 Share Posted November 15, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Reweivvt88 said: I think we live in a time where one political party has made an extreme shift yet everyone except MSNBC is covering politics like it's 1994 instead of 2024. Every other source of TV political news, including NBC News, is so afraid of looking partisan they either go out of their way to justify & sane wash Republicans or they negatively cover Democrats unfairly to appear balanced. I don't think this is good journalism. Both sides can't agree on facts because one side is disputing facts and NBC/CBS/ABC/CNN/NewsNation, etc. is giving them a platform to do it. I don't want to watch manufactured political news coverage that is worried about saying anything that will upset half the country, if a political party does something evil, I want them to call it evil, I don't want to see it justified no matter what, I don't want to watch TV news where there is no moral red line, I know when I watch MSNBC, they will tell it like it is, they aren't worried about upsetting Republicans, they aren't worried about trying to make Republicans & Democrats look equally good or bad. They also are not the anti-Republican news channel, they are the anti extreme news channel. They do have moderate Republicans on, and as you brought up, Bernie Sanders who is on the extreme left didn't like how MSNBC covered him in 2020, Tulsi Gabbard who was an extreme crazy Democrat running for president in 2020 also was upset with how MSNBC covered her. The bad actors on the left don't get a free pass from MSNBC. I don't agree with everything I see on MSNBC or every view expressed by MSNBC hosts or guests, but I know overall the network is in the same reality I am. I can't say that about any other television source for political news. I respectfully disagree with some points you made. Thinking that MSNBC is the only news outlet doing serious political journalism and providing the truth, indicates bias. I don't like this narrative that the media was unfair to Kamala.Trump has been the star of (justifiably) negative news coverage for 9 years. Thinking the media is biased when the shoe is on the other foot behaving like the republicans. That's an unfair assessment of ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN etc. They all repeatedly flag Trump's statements as false, and again provide mostly negative coverage of Trump. None of those networks give the extreme right a platform to freely spread information, or are unfair to Democrats. Take CNN panel discussions. The token outrageous Republican is usually outnumbered by liberals who along with the host fact checks. Example, CBS. Face the Nation: Margaret Brennan interrogated Democrat Governor Wes Moore on Face the Nation for trying to act like Joe Biden's debate performance was "just a bad night." She gave that same energy to the Republican governor of South Dakota who talked about killing her dog. Example: 60 minutes fact checks Arizona election rigging conspiracy. No, Republicans and Democrats are not equivalent in the country's current troubles, but all sides have to be subject to media scrutiny. Overall, if a person says it's raining, and another says it's not, the job of a journalist to go out and determine the weather without fear of offending one side. That I can agree on. Edited November 15, 2024 by MediaZone4K Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 1042 Posted November 15, 2024 Share Posted November 15, 2024 2 hours ago, MediaZone4K said: I respectfully disagree with some points you made. Thinking that MSNBC is the only news outlet doing serious political journalism and providing the truth, indicates bias. I don't like this narrative that the media was unfair to Kamala.Trump has been the star of (justifiably) negative news coverage for 9 years. Thinking the media is biased when the shoe is on the other foot behaving like the republicans. That's an unfair assessment of ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN etc. They all repeatedly flag Trump's statements as false, and again provide mostly negative coverage of Trump. None of those networks give the extreme right a platform to freely spread information, or are unfair to Democrats. Take CNN panel discussions. The token outrageous Republican is usually outnumbered by liberals who along with the host fact checks. Example, CBS. Face the Nation: Margaret Brennan interrogated Democrat Governor Wes Moore on Face the Nation for trying to act like Joe Biden's debate performance was "just a bad night." She gave that same energy to the Republican governor of South Dakota who talked about killing her dog. Example: 60 minutes fact checks Arizona election rigging conspiracy. No, Republicans and Democrats are not equivalent in the country's current troubles, but all sides have to be subject to media scrutiny. Overall, if a person says it's raining, and another says it's not, the job of a journalist to go out and determine the weather without fear of offending one side. That I can agree on. Here’s how I see it. The sky is blue and we all know that to be true/factual. One group agrees the sky is blue while another group says it’s green. CNN often provides a platform for those that think the sky is green under the guise of being fair without realizing (or caring) that they’re directly contributing to a world full of misinformation and propaganda. MSNBC often goes down the rabbit hole of browbeating those who think the sky is green in the misguided attempt to convince them the sky is blue. FNC just doesn’t care…. If there’s one thing this election taught us is that people will believe who/what they want (no matter what). Some news orgs view things from a warped perspective (particularly politics). They have to get back to the basic principles of journalism (truth, accuracy and objectivity) in order to restore their credibility and people’s trust in them. 6 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/21573-2024-election-coverage/#findComment-301589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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