Eat News 4738 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 MSNBC is a dead brand already. Andy Lack didn't move BW to save the brand. NBC didn't want to payout the BW contract and you can bet there is a complete rebrand of the soon to be former MSNBC. Microsoft bailed a few years ago so the "M" is questionable. What the rebrand will be is anybodys guess..... How about they just go all "out" with.... NBCGLBT-HD The first gay cable tv news network......in Hi-Def Maybe some of you graphic fanboys wanna whip up a few graphics??? I can't wait to see Ru Paul interview Rand Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Newsroom 1151 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 MSNBC is a dead brand already. Andy Lack didn't move BW to save the brand. NBC didn't want to payout the BW contract and you can bet there is a complete rebrand of the soon to be former MSNBC. Microsoft bailed a few years ago so the "M" is questionable. What the rebrand will be is anybody's guess..... How about they just go all "out" with.... NBCGLBT-HD The first gay cable tv news network......in Hi-Def Maybe some of you graphic fanboys wanna whip up a few graphics??? I can't wait to see Ru Paul interview Rand Paul. Yeah...uhh, no. I got an idea. How about taking digital network Shift and expand it into a cable network? ...or at least take the name for the rebrand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielMaron 5 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 A NY Times columnist made a good point this weekend: by placing BW on MSNBC, does that mean that MSNBC's journalistic standards are different than NBC. They are both NBC News. It seems like a knock on MSNBC that they get NBC's very sloppy seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 846 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 A NY Times columnist made a good point this weekend: by placing BW on MSNBC, does that mean that MSNBC's journalistic standards are different than NBC. They are both NBC News. It seems like a knock on MSNBC that they get NBC's very sloppy seconds. NBC goes to great pains to tell its affiliates "MSNBC? Yeah we don't know those clowns". So they aren't so "both NBC News" as it might seem at first glance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4738 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Just rebrand to NBC News. Use NBC News across all platforms. Simple and very cost effective. There is NO need to keep "MS" in the NBC. As for Williams??? He will atone for his sins during the big re-launch of NBC News (cable) and he along with Lester will be the new Huntley and Brinkley. Post MSNBC.... Richard Maddow will go to FOX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todayshowproducer 19 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Carl ended the broadcast night introducing and congratulating Lester as the official anchor starting tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoadStar 363 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Just rebrand to NBC News. Use NBC News across all platforms. Simple and very cost effective. There is NO need to keep "MS" in the NBC. While I'm sure there are many on the right that think of NBC News as a conduit for leftist propaganda, not news, I don't think that NBC really wants to foster that impression by tying the NBC News brand to the opinion-based programming that makes up much of the programming schedule on MSNBC. They'd be better off developing an entirely new brand that doesn't incorporate the NBC name.... or going with the NBC News brand and blowing up the entire programming schedule. Post MSNBC.... Richard Maddow will go to FOX. "Richard" Maddow? Unless that's a weird auto-correct, that's rather uncalled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1679 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Figured this should be placed here given this has to do with Lester taking over Nightly. Lester showed up and they did a send off for him. Also during the opening credits no names appeared and the announcer just said "From NBC News this is Today live from a Studio 1A in Rockefeller Plazza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBowler 48 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Just rebrand to NBC News. Use NBC News across all platforms. Simple and very cost effective. There is NO need to keep "MS" in the NBC. As for Williams??? He will atone for his sins during the big re-launch of NBC News (cable) and he along with Lester will be the new Huntley and Brinkley. Post MSNBC.... Richard Maddow will go to FOX. I'm really hoping this guy will apologize for this statement. Highly offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningNews 1293 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I'm really hoping this guy will apologize for this statement. Highly offensive. Not to mention that it wasn't even remotely funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1679 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Richard Maddow will go to FOX. NBCGLBT-HD The first gay cable tv news network......in Hi-Def Maybe some of you graphic fanboys wanna whip up a few graphics??? I can't wait to see Ru Paul interview Rand Paul. I don't care if politics come into play here on the board. Hell I've made it clear on many occasions that I'm a democrat. But when you start making fun of some based on their appearance, sexuality and life style you crossed a line. You could have made your opinions known with out resorting to homophobic and bigoted remarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swillh2k2 203 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Ignoring the previous comments and steering it back on topic... I wouldn't be surprised if the only changes to NN were to the VO (Michael Douglas just sounded out of place) and a tweak to the presentation style of the rundown at the top of the show. That doesn't mean further changes would be made before the year is up, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielMaron 5 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 NBC goes to great pains to tell its affiliates "MSNBC? Yeah we don't know those clowns". So they aren't so "both NBC News" as it might seem at first glance. Regardless of how NBC makes it come off, the two are highly connected to each other. They share correspondents, a newsroom and heck they used to share a website up till last year under the MSNBC moniker. Someone who doesn't have the insight or understanding of the differences between the to networks like many on here do would be at a loss to see any difference between the two. If NBC deemed Brian to unreliable or truthful to be on their newscasts, why should MSNBC be any different? Anyway, Lester has officially taken over so i guess we can let the BW story behind us.. that is until he returns in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ns8401 846 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Regardless of how NBC makes it come off, the two are highly connected to each other. They share correspondents, a newsroom and heck they used to share a website up till last year under the MSNBC moniker. Someone who doesn't have the insight or understanding of the differences between the to networks like many on here do would be at a loss to see any difference between the two. If NBC deemed Brian to unreliable or truthful to be on their newscasts, why should MSNBC be any different? Anyway, Lester has officially taken over so i guess we can let the BW story behind us.. that is until he returns in August. I doubt he'd return to the big chair. Everybody now is saying "good they demoted Brian and he deserved it". Put him in the chair again and you'll stir that storm right back up. That's what we were told at WDIV when the Ferguson no charges decision was pending. MSNBC was reporting things that NBC would not confirm or back them up on. They distanced themselves from the cable channel and did so firmly. So NBC didn't make it come off that way... There's some actual animosity there. It seems like the people at NBC find MSNBC to be an embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eat News 4738 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 It's all about the money now. NBCU/Comcast just blew millions and millions of dollars on the failed TWC merger. Nobody is going to be tossing cash around for complete re-brands when the idea is brand synergy. If they had money to burn for this project they would have payed out Williams and moved on. MSNBC is still making money...but it's far from the network mandated performance goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1679 Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 That's what we were told at WDIV when the Ferguson no charges decision was pending. MSNBC was reporting things that NBC would not confirm or back them up on. They distanced themselves from the cable channel and did so firmly. So NBC didn't make it come off that way... There's some actual animosity there. It seems like the people at NBC find MSNBC to be an embarrassment. That makes sense msnbc is an opinion channel that draws upon NBC News. There are only a handful of program at msnbc that don't generally show bias from their hosts. The only shows I'd consider as news programs (that may have bias by guests but not hosts) are First Look, The Rundown Jose Diaz-Balart, News Nation w/ Tamron Hall and Andrea Mitchell Reports. Even though they are trying to make MSNBC Live w/ Thomas Roberts a straight news show he ends up giving his opinion often. That being said the other shows can manage to separate opinions from other segments such as investigations and some interviews on Rachel Maddow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Red 104 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 We can say that Lester did a full year as evening news host and he deserves an A+++ for the class he has shown throughout the whole Williams circus. He is solid and brings weight to the show with his experience and likability. NBC made the right decision in a long long long long long time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVNewsLover 728 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 We can say that Lester did a full year as evening news host and he deserves an A+++ for the class he has shown throughout the whole Williams circus. He is solid and brings weight to the show with his experience and likability. NBC made the right decision in a long long long long long time! Are you trying to set a record for bumping the most old threads in a short period of time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindNYNews 143 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Are you trying to set a record for bumping the most old threads in a short period of time? Seriously... this is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5276 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Are you trying to set a record for bumping the most old threads in a short period of time? Still got a ways to go to break any kind of record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Red 104 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Are you trying to set a record for bumping the most old threads in a short period of time? I am not offending anyone, and plus I am new here and catching up on what has happened this year. Please leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24994J 5276 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I am not offending anyone, and plus I am new here and catching up on what has happened this year. Please leave it alone. No. There are actually rules here, and posting on a bunch of dormant threads is frowned upon. Time to brush up... http://forums.tvnewstalk.net/index.php?threads/tvnewstalk-net-community-guidelines-and-terms.6219/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Red 104 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 No. There are actually rules here, and posting on a bunch of dormant threads is frowned upon. Time to brush up... http://forums.tvnewstalk.net/index.php?threads/tvnewstalk-net-community-guidelines-and-terms.6219/ Thank you Captain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nynewslover 269 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Thank you Captain! Didn't you say you were new here? Not off on the right foot lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoseRM303 169 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Thank you Captain! Pay them no attention you didn't do anything wrong. They are the same few people who get upset if you do something they don't like but mean while it's nothing for them to bump old threads etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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