channel2 979 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Doesn't Meredith have bigger fish to fry right about now? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDonP1 118 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 As someone living on Oklahoma, all I'm waiting for is to see which duopoly in OKC stays and which one goes elsewhere. Hello. As an Oklahoma native living in the Greater Seattle Area. What you are waiting for is also among the things I am waiting for. I am also hoping that Sinclair would keep Seattle's KOMO 4 and Univision Seattle and that 21st Century Fox would buyout the Tribune Media-owned Seattle duopoly of KCPQ and KZJO. (If you believe I was going off the topic, then my apologies.) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3953 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Like KDNL and WXLV huh? Touche. I think FOX learned their lesson after they "normalized" WJZY. Either way, WGNO is going to get a major overhaul....not sure how it could go depending on who it ends up with... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmaxhanson 650 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 I think FOX learned their lesson after they "normalized" WJZY. Which I think is why Tegna is holding off on bringing Joel Cheatwood to WCNC, they know Charlotte doesn't want another WJZY. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Info Junkie 1286 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Why does everyone think this deals gonna go through? Meredith was gonna merge with Media General and it never came through because of the Nexstar merger... Tribune doesn’t even have to merge really... If the merger does go through, I hope Fox gets KCPQ. It’s definitely time for Seattle to get another network O&O and plus Fox has some interest in broadcasting Hawks games. If Tegna or Nexstar get a duopoly in the Grand Rapids market with WXMI, I almost certainly see them canceling WXMI’s own newscasts and making a Primetime newscast on said station. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFloTVClassics 972 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Why does everyone think this deals gonna go through? Meredith was gonna merge with Media General and it never came through because of the Nexstar merger... Tribune doesn’t even have to merge really... If the merger does go through, I hope Fox gets KCPQ. It’s definitely time for Seattle to get another network O&O and plus Fox has some interest in broadcasting Hawks games. If Tegna or Nexstar get a duopoly in the Grand Rapids market with WXMI, I almost certainly see them canceling WXMI’s own newscasts and making a Primetime newscast on said station. One Can only hope. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColDayNews 438 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Going back to Raycom here for a bit: What are the odds that Fox gets WSTR from Sinclair and WXIX from Raycom? Sinclair has wanted to spin off WSTR for a while, and it’s one of their biggest standalone MyNetwork TV affiliates. Sinclair tried offering it to Fox in 2013, however they didn’t want it unless they could get WXIX. WXIX is one of Fox’s strongest affiliates, producing a 6 1/2 hour morning newscast (from 4:30 - 11am), a 30 minute 6:30 newscast and an hourlong 10pm newscast, a total of 8 hours of news a day. Their 6:30 show frequently beats Nightly, WNT, and the CBS Evening News. WSTR airs the 7am and 8am hours of Good Morning Cincinnati and a 10pm newscast produced by WKRC. I’m quite sure Fox would love to kill that competition. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjt24 313 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I would LOVE to see FOX get WPGH (FOX) and WPNT (MyNetworkTV), The Steelers are a Huge draw here and would be a huge benefit to the duopoly's success. Sinclair has run both stations into the ground and is in dire need of a complete makeover and FOX can do that. Although it probably won't happen, I too, would like to see that happen. Maybe make things interesting in the Pittsburgh market... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2422 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Going back to Raycom here for a bit: What are the odds that Fox gets WSTR from Sinclair and WXIX from Raycom? Sinclair has wanted to spin off WSTR for a while, and it’s one of their biggest standalone MyNetwork TV affiliates. Sinclair tried offering it to Fox in 2013, however they didn’t want it unless they could get WXIX. WXIX is one of Fox’s strongest affiliates, producing a 6 1/2 hour morning newscast (from 4:30 - 11am), a 30 minute 6:30 newscast and an hourlong 10pm newscast, a total of 8 hours of news a day. Their 6:30 show frequently beats Nightly, WNT, and the CBS Evening News. WSTR airs the 7am and 8am hours of Good Morning Cincinnati and a 10pm newscast produced by WKRC. I’m quite sure Fox would love to kill that competition. I'm actually surprised WXIX is not on more during the day but that's because of its morning news being so long. I for one, wouldn't mind if WXIX did an hour at 6pm instead of just one half-hour at 6:30pm (don't mean to go off topic on here). The only probably about that is its not an NFC market. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColDayNews 438 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I'm actually surprised WXIX is not on more during the day but that's because of its morning news being so long. I for one, wouldn't mind if WXIX did an hour at 6pm instead of just one half-hour at 6:30pm (don't mean to go off topic on here). The only probably about that is its not an NFC market. I think Fox would end the morning show at 10, move Rachel Ray to 10, Judge Faith to 11 and put an 11:30am newscast in its place: “FOX 19 Midday.” Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadcastfan9751 140 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Going back to Raycom here for a bit: What are the odds that Fox gets WSTR from Sinclair and WXIX from Raycom? Sinclair has wanted to spin off WSTR for a while, and it’s one of their biggest standalone MyNetwork TV affiliates. Sinclair tried offering it to Fox in 2013, however they didn’t want it unless they could get WXIX. WXIX is one of Fox’s strongest affiliates, producing a 6 1/2 hour morning newscast (from 4:30 - 11am), a 30 minute 6:30 newscast and an hourlong 10pm newscast, a total of 8 hours of news a day. Their 6:30 show frequently beats Nightly, WNT, and the CBS Evening News. WSTR airs the 7am and 8am hours of Good Morning Cincinnati and a 10pm newscast produced by WKRC. I’m quite sure Fox would love to kill that competition. The option for Fox to acquire WSTR was before Sinclair acquired WKRC in 2012, so I don't see Sinclair selling it now. Also, it's not really a standalone station anymore since it's in a duopoly with WKRC. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2422 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I think Fox would end the morning show at 10, move Rachel Ray to 10, Judge Faith to 11 and put an 11:30am newscast in its place: “FOX 19 Midday.” Well hold on... look at WJBK and WTTG. They both go till 11am with 'JBK offering an extra hour until noon. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius22 122 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 KSWB and KTXL may be potential victims of this. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1524 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Well hold on... look at WJBK and WTTG. They both go till 11am with 'JBK offering an extra hour until noon. Wait....news from as early as 4:30am all the way till noon?!? Do they not have enough syndicated programming to cover the last two hours of the morning? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3305 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Wait....news from as early as 4:30am all the way till noon?!? Do they not have enough syndicated programming to cover the last two hours of the morning? Even WSVN thinks that's overkill. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad 113 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Even WSVN thinks that's overkill. And WHDH. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2422 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Even WSVN thinks that's overkill. But at least WSVN should expand to 4:30 a.m. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4374 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Well then. [MEDIA=twitter]938072196089597958[/MEDIA] It may sound absurd, but there is no doubt in my mind that this Disney-Fox deal is being set up to provide enough money for Fox to cherry-pick the Tribune-owned Fox affiliates they want from Sinclair. Just like the New World stations that were divested in 2008 so News Corp. could buy Dow Jones. Follow the money... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFloTVClassics 972 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Well then. [MEDIA=twitter]938072196089597958[/MEDIA] It may sound absurd, but there is no doubt in my mind that this Disney-Fox deal is being set up to provide enough money for Fox to cherry-pick the Tribune-owned Fox affiliates they want from Sinclair. Just like the New World stations that were divested in 2008 so News Corp. could buy Dow Jones. Follow the money... Wow. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSZNews 1051 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 It may sound absurd, but there is no doubt in my mind that this Disney-Fox deal is being set up to provide enough money for Fox to cherry-pick the Tribune-owned Fox affiliates they want from Sinclair. Just like the New World stations that were divested in 2008 so News Corp. could buy Dow Jones. Follow the money... I think you're right, but I'm beginning to wonder if FOX is overvaluing the long-term prospects of football. If football ratings continue their downward trend, they're separating the still very lucrative content arm from the distribution, and that could get dangerous. FNC alone can't prop the whole ship up. Sinclair will have this problem too (frankly all OTA TV will) but they will have enough affiliate diversification and leverage with distributors when this is all squared away to weather it. I'm not sure that will be the case for the FOX O&Os. Only way to tackle it is to nab the AFC rights from CBS, own the Sunday afternoon rights outright, and start buying up AFC markets. If the Murdochs get $60 billion from this, that's enough of a war chest to start putting the pieces together now relatively cheaply using the Sinclair castaways--and maybe as innocuous MyNet affils to start--and then make your move when the rights are up next. It's a super risky move. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFloTVClassics 972 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I think you're right, but I'm beginning to wonder if FOX is overvaluing the long-term prospects of football. If football ratings continue their downward trend, they're separating the still very lucrative content arm from the distribution, and that could get dangerous. FNC alone can't prop the whole ship up. Sinclair will have this problem too (frankly all OTA TV will) but they will have enough affiliate diversification and leverage with distributors when this is all squared away to weather it. I'm not sure that will be the case for the FOX O&Os. Only way to tackle it is to nab the AFC rights from CBS, own the Sunday afternoon rights outright, and start buying up AFC markets. If the Murdochs get $60 billion from this, that's enough of a war chest to start putting the pieces together now relatively cheaply using the Sinclair castaways--and maybe as innocuous MyNet affils to start--and then make your move when the rights are up next. It's a super risky move. That's one scenario or they could get sunday night football. But your right it's a risky move. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVNewsLover 779 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I think you're right, but I'm beginning to wonder if FOX is overvaluing the long-term prospects of football. If football ratings continue their downward trend, they're separating the still very lucrative content arm from the distribution, and that could get dangerous. FNC alone can't prop the whole ship up. Sinclair will have this problem too (frankly all OTA TV will) but they will have enough affiliate diversification and leverage with distributors when this is all squared away to weather it. I'm not sure that will be the case for the FOX O&Os. Only way to tackle it is to nab the AFC rights from CBS, own the Sunday afternoon rights outright, and start buying up AFC markets. If the Murdochs get $60 billion from this, that's enough of a war chest to start putting the pieces together now relatively cheaply using the Sinclair castaways--and maybe as innocuous MyNet affils to start--and then make your move when the rights are up next. It's a super risky move. That's one scenario or they could get sunday night football. But your right it's a risky move. I feel like the FOX football product has gotten old. The music is old and overused on non-NFL sports coverage (I miss the MLB and World Series themes). Curt Menafee is no James Brown, Greg Gumbel, Bob Costas, or Jim Nantz. Terry Bradshaw is old. The desk is too small that it feels like Michael, Howie, and Jimmy are sitting knee-to-knee. I find it more likely that ABC or NBC or even CBS will make a bid for the NFC rights. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFloTVClassics 972 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I feel like the FOX football product has gotten old. The music is old and overused on non-NFL sports coverage (I miss the MLB and World Series themes). Curt Menafee is no James Brown, Greg Gumbel, Bob Costas, or Jim Nantz. Terry Bradshaw is old. The desk is too small that it feels like Michael, Howie, and Jimmy are sitting knee-to-knee. I find it more likely that ABC or NBC or even CBS will make a bid for the NFC rights. Tough call. NBC is happy with sunday night football. CBS May get redemption and bring the NFC games back as for the AFC games, most likely will go to FOX, ESPN Can easily snatch up The thursday night football rights and broadcast on ABC. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 The owners of Fox affiliates in AFC markets: AFC East Buffalo Bills - Sinclair Miami Dolphins - Sunbeam New England Patriots - Cox New York Jets - O&O AFC North Baltimore Ravens - Sinclair Cincinnati Bengals - Raycom Cleveland Browns - Tribune --> Sinclair Pittsburgh Steelers - Sinclair AFC South Houston Texans - O&O Indianapolis Colts - Tribune --> Sinclair Jacksonville Jaguars - Cox Tennessee Titans - Sinclair AFC West Denver Broncos - Tribune --> Sinclair Kansas City Chiefs - Tribune --> Sinclair Los Angeles Chargers - O&O Oakland Raiders - O&O Sinclair would have 8 of the 16 AFC markets (half of them), while only 4 would be Fox-owned. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFloTVClassics 972 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 The owners of Fox affiliates in AFC markets: AFC East Buffalo Bills - Sinclair Miami Dolphins - Sunbeam New England Patriots - Cox New York Jets - O&O AFC North Baltimore Ravens - Sinclair Cincinnati Bengals - Raycom Cleveland Browns - Tribune --> Sinclair Pittsburgh Steelers - Sinclair AFC South Houston Texans - O&O Indianapolis Colts - Tribune --> Sinclair Jacksonville Jaguars - Cox Tennessee Titans - Sinclair AFC West Denver Broncos - Tribune --> Sinclair Kansas City Chiefs - Tribune --> Sinclair Los Angeles Chargers - O&O Oakland Raiders - O&O Sinclair would have 8 of the 16 AFC markets (half of them), while only 4 would be Fox-owned. Hmm. Point taken. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/15610-sinclair-tribune-close-to-merger-deal/page/75/#findComment-190703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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