GoldenShine9 1513 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 All they would have to do is sell one station in Tulsa, and the deal would be an easy one. While Scripps would still be very ABC-heavy (especially with three more very strong ABC affiliates - they would have 17), they'd increase their CBS presence from 2 to 5, and their Fox presence from 4 to 7 (assuming KOKI is divested; 8 if KJRH is sold). Another tidbit: Scripps owned WMC in Memphis for many years. It would be a return to the market if they got WHBQ. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottSchell 366 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 All they would have to do is sell one station in Tulsa, and the deal would be an easy one. The only problem with that is Scripps may not want to sell KJRH since they just spent money letting there station remodel the place and upgrade their weather system Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees4life 559 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Not too sure who would buy the stations. Maybe Sinclair gives it another college try Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 All they would have to do is sell one station in Tulsa, and the deal would be an easy one. While Scripps would still be very ABC-heavy (especially with three more very strong ABC affiliates - they would have 17), they'd increase their CBS presence from 2 to 5, and their Fox presence from 4 to 7 (assuming KOKI is divested; 8 if KJRH is sold). Another tidbit: Scripps owned WMC in Memphis for many years. It would be a return to the market if they got WHBQ. I'd be curious as to what the ratings are like for Tulsa Obviously, KOTV for the last 17+ years has been Tulsa's Leader in TV News but KOKI, since Cox took over, have really surged from 4 to 2 while KJRH/KTUL have slipped to 3 and 4, be very interested to see what the ratings look like. As of now, I say Scripps retains KOKI and KJRH will have new owners Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenShine9 1513 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I'd be curious as to what the ratings are like for Tulsa Obviously, KOTV for the last 17+ years has been Tulsa's Leader in TV News but KOKI, since Cox took over, have really surged from 4 to 2 while KJRH/KTUL have slipped to 3 and 4, be very interested to see what the ratings look like. As of now, I say Scripps retains KOKI and KJRH will have new owners I know KOTV dominates, but I thought the rest of the order was KTUL 2nd, KJRH 3rd and KOKI 4th? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottSchell 366 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I know KOTV dominates, but I thought the rest of the order was KTUL 2nd, KJRH 3rd and KOKI 4th? No KOKI moved up to 2 in ratings Ktul fell Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
channel2 981 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I'd be curious as to what the ratings are like for Tulsa Obviously, KOTV for the last 17+ years has been Tulsa's Leader in TV News but KOKI, since Cox took over, have really surged from 4 to 2 while KJRH/KTUL have slipped to 3 and 4, be very interested to see what the ratings look like. As of now, I say Scripps retains KOKI and KJRH will have new owners I may be wrong but would the tax hit be higher if they sold off KJRH? Unless they traded it for a station in another market...and KOKI being part of a duopoly with KMYT would be a point in its favor... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDonP1 118 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 And I think Scripps are the people who should merge with Cox! Well, if that is true, then there goes CBS' chance of buying out Seattle's KIRO 7. Oh, well, just stating. That is another story for another place. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtFromGulfcoast 715 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I know KOTV dominates, but I thought the rest of the order was KTUL 2nd, KJRH 3rd and KOKI 4th? KOKI is 2, KJRH is 3 and KTUL is 4. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3310 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Who would KJRH/KOKI go to, though? Nexstar seems most likely. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I may be wrong but would the tax hit be higher if they sold off KJRH? Unless they traded it for a station in another market...and KOKI being part of a duopoly with KMYT would be a point in its favor... If Scripps did trade KJRH who would you include going with KJRH in the trade (if any) and who would you get in return? Who would KJRH/KOKI go to, though? Nexstar seems most likely. I would look to Oklahoma City and Fort Smith for clues on where either station would go to Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeters 1946 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 This thread is getting to far into fantasy/speculation territory. Take it to the proper place, or I'll start handing out thread bans. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennTV1983 804 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Another tidbit: Scripps owned WMC in Memphis for many years. It would be a return to the market if they got WHBQ. There's irony to this one considering E.W. Scripps built WMC-TV from the ground up when it signed on almost 70 years ago. Owning a competitor station in WHBQ is something I probably wouldn't have expected to happen. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 There's irony to this one considering E.W. Scripps built WMC-TV from the ground up when it signed on almost 70 years ago. Owning a competitor station in WHBQ is something I probably wouldn't have expected to happen. Have there been other companies besides Scripps that have built/signed on a TV station, only to have sold it and then, later on, return to that same market with a competing station? The only one off-hand that I could think of would be Griffin signing KTUL on the air then sold it off and then later returned to Tulsa with the purchase of KOTV from Belo in 2000 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth Kissel 283 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 If NBC plans to buy WPXI, what's going to happen to PCNC, and WPGH 10PM News 'PXI produced. Nothing, unless Sinclair wants to bring In-house news back to WPGH. I can see the agreement changing though. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtFromGulfcoast 715 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Have there been other companies besides Scripps that have built/signed on a TV station, only to have sold it and then, later on, return to that same market with a competing station? The only one off-hand that I could think of would be Griffin signing KTUL on the air then sold it off and then later returned to Tulsa with the purchase of KOTV from Belo in 2000 In the Carolinas, Pappas signed on WHNS (today owned by Meredith), sold it off and then bought WASV (now WYCW). A predecessor of Morgan Murphy signed on WEAU in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Presently, Morgan Murphy owns WKBT in that same market. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4384 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Have there been other companies besides Scripps that have built/signed on a TV station, only to have sold it and then, later on, return to that same market with a competing station? The only one off-hand that I could think of would be Griffin signing KTUL on the air then sold it off and then later returned to Tulsa with the purchase of KOTV from Belo in 2000 CBS ... when they got the construction permit for what would have been KMOX-TV 11, then sold that to the Koplars after successfully purchasing the market’s existing CBS affiliate, KWK-TV 4. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman748 1256 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 In the Carolinas, Pappas signed on WHNS (today owned by Meredith), sold it off and then bought WASV (now WYCW). A predecessor of Morgan Murphy signed on WEAU in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Presently, Morgan Murphy owns WKBT in that same market. CBS ... when they got the construction permit for what would have been KMOX-TV 11, then sold that to the Koplars after successfully purchasing the market’s existing CBS affiliate, KWK-TV 4. That's who I was thinking of. I knew there were couple of others but I forgot about the others Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-209972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I just thought about something as I was watching WTVF while I'm at work, you want to know one reason why Scripps is a good fit for stations like WSB or WFTV? The graphics. Think about it, think about the WSB logo and the WFTV logo, they could EASILY go with the Scripps standardized pack and it would look great. And WJAX/WFOX already has a similar variation of it in red and blue, so it wouldn't be much of a drastic change. WSOC and WHIO would fit right in as well. It just goes to show that their current logos would not need altering in any way. I know most of the people on this forum want the Scripps pack to be replaced already, but if Cox and Scripps should merge, I would be fine with WSB using the Scripps graphics (they're overdue for new graphics anyway). Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-210608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosiahCubed 281 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 WPXI also could use a graphics upgrade, especially since their current graphics are an evolution of their 2007 graphics package. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-210612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I just thought about something as I was watching WTVF while I'm at work, you want to know one reason why Scripps is a good fit for stations like WSB or WFTV? The graphics. What the graphics package looks like is of ZERO concern when it comes to the sale of a multi-million dollar corporation that employs thousands of people. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-210619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSSZNews 1052 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 What the graphics package looks like is of ZERO concern when it comes to the sale of a multi-million dollar corporation that employs thousands of people. Don't tell that to the in-house art departments Cox employs who could find themselves out of work in a challenging market should a group that's graphics hub happy like Scripps pick them up. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-210630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth Kissel 283 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 WPXI also could use a graphics upgrade, especially since their current graphics are an evolution of their 2007 graphics package. I agree completely. Their Graphics are very bland compared to the New WTAE graphics and CBS O&O graphics KDKA has. Also, WPGH never seemed to fit the WPXI graphics in the 10 PM newscasts. I wish Cox/Sinclair would have used different graphics for the WPGH newscast. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-210631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Block 1566 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Don't tell that to the in-house art departments Cox employs who could find themselves out of work in a challenging market should a group that's graphics hub happy like Scripps pick them up. That's essentially my point – graphics designers at Cox won't care about what the graphics will look like at the new company if they don't have jobs in it. There's so much more at stake in these mergers than what the sets or graphics will look like. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-210632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 What the graphics package looks like is of ZERO concern when it comes to the sale of a multi-million dollar corporation that employs thousands of people. Don't tell that to the in-house art departments Cox employs who could find themselves out of work in a challenging market should a group that's graphics hub happy like Scripps pick them up. That's essentially my point – graphics designers at Cox won't care about what the graphics will look like at the new company if they don't have jobs in it. There's so much more at stake in these mergers than what the sets or graphics will look like. I know C Block, I was making a general observation not saying that should be a deciding factor and reason for the sale. No need to be a dick about it. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/16550-cox-sells-majority-tv-interest-to-apollo/page/13/#findComment-210648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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