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I’ve been informed Nielsen has updated its market rankings for 2024, and this is the new list of top 30 DMAs, effective Sept. 28.

 

Note DFW has finally surpassed Philly as #4.

 

(Full list including year-to-year change in comments) 

 

2024-2025 RANK

MARKET

TV HOUSEHOLDS

1

New York, NY

7494510

2

Los Angeles, CA

5835790

3

Chicago, IL

3654750

4

Dallas-Ft. Worth, TX

3264490

5

Philadelphia, PA

3145920

6

Houston, TX

2797420

7

Atlanta, GA

2758170

8

Washington, DC (Hagerstown, MD)

2630640

9

Boston, MA (Manchester, NH)

2584480

10

San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA

2542480

11

Tampa-St. Petersburg (Serasota), FL

2221240

12

Phoenix (Prescott), AZ

2198200

13

Seattie-Tacoma, WA

2098240

14

Detroit, MI

1940750

15

Orlando-Daytona Beach-Molbourne. FL

1902420

16

Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN

1888680

17

Denver, CO

1806270

18

Miami-Ft. Lauderdale, FL

1756920

19

Cleveland-Akron (Canton), OH

1554340

20

Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto, CA

1497920

21

Charlotte, NC

1382020

22

Raleigh-Durham (Fayettevile), NC

1345840]

23

Portland, OR

1277920

24

St. Louis, MO

1273870

25

Indianapolis, IN

1232210

26

Nashvile, TN

1199400

27

Pietsburgh, PA

1167890

28

Salt Lake City. UT

1163520

29

Balimore, MO

1155000

30

San Diego, CA

1116150

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Assuming this is reliable, my notes

 

Florida:

Orlando has jumped from 16 to 15, Tampa has jumped from 13 to 11. Miami is still at 18 (from when I last checked rankings).

 

Idk why I had thought the household gap between NYC and LA was much wider.

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Full list:

 

2023-24 RANK

2024-25 RANK

CHANGE IN RANK

MARKET

2023-24 TV HOUSEHOLDS

2024-25 TV HOUSEHOLDS

1

1

0

New York, NY

7595250

7494510

2

2

0

Los Angeles, CA

5905230

5835790

3

3

0

Chicago, IL

3648640

3654750

5

4

1

Dallas-Ft. Worth, TX

3130430

3264490

4

5

-1

Philadelphia, PA

3176540

3145920

6

6

0

Houston. TX

2772680

2797420

7

7

0

Atlanta, GA

2737480

2758170

9

8

1

Washington, DC (Hagerstown, MD)

2577690

2630640

8

9

-1|

Boston, MA (Manchester, NH)

2606030

2584460

10

10

0

San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA

2520350

2542480

12

11

1

Tampa-St. Petersburg (Sarasota), FL

2143270

22221240

11

12

-1

Phoenix (Prescott), AZ

2174290

2198200

13

13

0

Seattle-Tacoma, WA

2070920

2098240

14

14

0

Detroit, MI

1929890

1940750

16

15

1

Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne, FL

1840340

1902420

15

16

-1

Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN

1861980

1886680

17

17

0

Denver, CO

1787410

1806270

18

18

0

Miami-Ft. Lauderdale, FL

1737000

1756920

19

19

0

Cleveland-Akron (Canton), OH

1552900

1554340

20

20

0

Sacramento-Stockton-vodesto, CA

1525760

1497920

21

21

0

Charlotte, NC

1361740

1382020

22

22

0

Raleigh-Durham (Fayetteville), NC

1333350

1345840

23

23

0

Portland, OR

1315030

1277920

24

24

0

St. Louis, MO

1285040

1273870

25

25

0

Indianapolis, IN

1205900

1232210

26

26

0

Nashville, TN

1191970

1199400

28

27

1

Pittsburgh, PA

1164860

1167890

27

28

-1

Salt Lake City, UT

1173870

1163520

29

29

0

Baltimore, MD

1161920

1155000

30

30

0

San Diego. CA

1122930

1116150

31

31

0

San Antonio, TX

1081400

1096400

32

32

0

Hartford & New Haven, CT

1034210

1060910

34

33

1

Kansas City, MO

1019080

1033680

35

34

1

Austin, TX

1000680

1029800

33

35

-2

Columbus. OH

1020490

1018390

36

36

0

Greenville-Spartanburg, SC-Asheville, NC-Anders

950970

987740

37

37

0

Cincinnati, OH

940410

958630

38

38

0

Milwaukee, WI

931550

944900

39

39

0

West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce, FL

912680

936790

40

40

0

Las Vegas, NV

888620

896460

41

41

0

Jacksonville, FL

799420

840340

44

42

2

Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York, PA

774520

802360

42

43

-1

Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo-Battle Creek. MI

784190

801030

43

44

-1

Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News. VA

776230

779970

46

45

1

Birmingham (Anniston and Tuscaloosa), AL

756050

771860

45

46

-1

Greensboro-High Point-Winston Salem, NC

756270

766980

47

47

0

Oklahoma City, OK

737090

762700

49

48

1

Albuquerque-Santa Fe, NM

702680

708050

48

49

-1

Louisville, KY

707810

702310

51

50

1

New Orleans, LA

672320

672790

50

51

-1

Memphis, TN

672720

666300

53

52

1

Providence, RI-New Bedford, MA

647790

662810

55

53

2

Ft. Myers-Naples, FL

623670

641850

54

54

0

Buffalo, NY

641090

637090

52

55

-3

Fresno-Visalia, CA

649430

636260

56

56

0

Richmond-Petersburg, VA

611040

625380

57

57

0

Mobile, AL-Pensacola (Ft. Walton Beach), FL

606020

605340

59

58

1

Little Rock-Pine Bluff, AR

587660

590980

58

59

-1|

Wilkes Barre-Scranton-Hazleton. PA

588490

589190

61

60

1

Knoxville, TN

578600

584100

62

61

1

Tuisa, OK

557440

575780

60

62

-2

Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY

580560

575590

63

63

0

Lexington, KY

515060

517660

66

64

2

Dayton, OH

486650

498200

65

65

0

Tucson (Sierra Vista), AZ

498090

497660

64

66

-2

Spokane, WA

500010

496260

67

67

0

Des Moines-Ames, IA

482450

480550

69

68

1

Green Bay-Appleton, WI

475650

478970

68

69

-1

Honolulu, HI

476990

470520

70

70

0

Roanoke-Lynchburg, VA

458320

460000

72

71

1

Wichita-Hutchinson, KS Plus

455550

458990

74

72

2

Flint-Saginaw-Bay City, MI

444780

458710

71

73

-2

Omaha, NE

455600

458080

73

74

-1

Springfield, MO

445800

454280

81

75

6

Huntsville-Decatur (Florence), AL

423570

452230

75

76

-1

Columbia, SC

443360

450440

77

77

0

Madison, WI

433920

443220

78

78

0

Portland-Auburn, ME

433250

439030

76

79

-3

Rochester, NY

436060

435860

82

80

2

Harlingen-Weslaco-Brownsville-McAllen, TX

422200

428240

80

81

-1

Toledo, OH

426210

424050

79

82

-3

Charleston-Huntington, WV

426870

422160

83

83

0

Waco-Temple-Bryan, TX

411930

419600

85

84

1

Savannah, GA

391320

400190

88

85

3

Charleston, SC

388840

399960

84

86

-2

Chattanooga, TN

410010

391370

86

87

-1

Colorado Springs-Pueblo, CO

390400

388730

87

88

-1

Syracuse, NY

389240

387030

89

89

0

El Paso, TX (Las Cruces, NM)

378650

385080

90

90

0

Paducah, KY-Cape Girardeau, MO-Harrisburg, IL

374420

378520

92

91

1

Shreveport, LA

372960

375030

91

92

-1

Champaign & Springfield-Decatur, IL

373250

371520

93

93

0

Burlington, VT-Plattsburgh, NY

366420

369840

94

94

0

Cedar Rapids-Waterloo-lowa City & Dubuque, IA

364260

364130

95

95

0

Baton Rouge, LA

357270

355760

96

96

0

Ft. Smith-Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers, AR

348990

352410

99

97

2

Myrtie Beach-Florence, SC

338230

347660

97

98

-1

Boise, ID

341580

345250

98

99

-1

Jackson, MS

339750

339170

100

100

0

South Bend-Elkhart, IN

328740

331800

101

101

0

Tri-Cities, TN-VA

326330

331520

102

102

0

Greenville-New Bern-Washington, NC

310640

319350

103

103

0

Reno, NV

310570

315350

104

104

0

Davenport, IA-Rock Island-Moline, IL

301920

304840

105

105

0

Tallahassee, FL-Thomasville, GA

300610

303530

109

106

3

Tyler-Longview(Lufkin & Nacogdoches), TX

288630

297900

106

107

-1

Lincoln & Hastings-Kearney, NE

295450

296500

110

108

2

Augusta, GA-Aiken, SC

287840

291070

107

109

-2

Evansville, IN

291550

290790

108

110

-2

Ft. Wayne. IN

290350

290520

 

 

 

 

 

 

111

111

0

Sioux Falls(Mitchell), SD

286580

286600

112

112

0

Johnstown-Altoona-State College, PA

285750

285520

114

113

1

Fargo, ND

269740

269310

116

114

2

Yakima-Pasco-Richland-Kennewick, WA

262240

268030

115

115

0

Springfield-Holyoke, MA

268000

267210

118

116

2

Traverse City-Cadillac, MI

259540

266960

113

117

-4

Lansing, MI

271010

265830

117

118

-1

Youngstown, OH

260040

263000

120

119

1

Macon, GA

255090

258400

119

120

-1

Eugene, OR

256350

256020

121

121

0

Montgomery-Selma, AL

251540

249100

123

122

1

Peoria-Bloomington, IL

248490

246270

122

123

-1

Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-San Luis Obispo, CAl

248860

245950

125

124

1

Lafayette, LA

243740

245210

124

125

-1

Bakersfield, CA

247690

244310

128

126

2

Wilmington, NC

230510

240210

126

127

-1

Columbus, GA (Opelika, AL)

234620

234450

127

128

-1

Monterey-Salinas, CA

233940

230950

129

129

0

La Crosse-Eau Claire, Wi

223920

224120

130

130

0

Corpus Christi, TX

210480

209780

133

131

2

Salis bury, MD

193270

198930

131

132

-1

Amarillo, TX

195870

198790

132

133

-1

Wausau-Rhinelander, WI

195540

194130

135

134

1

Columbus-Tupelo-West Point-Houston, MS

190850

190950

136

135

1

Columbia-Jefferson City, MO

187170

190370

134

136

-2

Chico-Redding, CA

191030

188320

137

137

0

Rockford, IL

182070

180910

139

138

1

Duluth, MN-Superior, WI

176810

179710

138

139

-1

Medford-Klamath Falls, OR

179170

176990

141

140

1

Lubbock, TX

174470

176410

140

141

-1

Topeka, KS

175120

176250

142

142

0

Monroe, LA-EI Dorado, AR

173600

171300

144

143

1

Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX

169260

170420

147

144

3

Odessa-Midland, TX

160050

169390

143

145

-2

Palm Springs, CA

170150

167060

146

146

0

Anchorage, AK

165500

165750

145

147

-2

Bismarck-Minot-Dickinson(Williston),ND

168930

163860

148

148

0

Panama City, FL

158710

163100

150

149

1

Sioux City, IA

157500

157520

149

150

-1

Wichita Falls, TX & Lawton, OK

158250

156680

151

151

0

Joplin, MO-Pittsburg, KS

153990

155240

154

152

2

Albany, GA

151390

153090

152

153

-1

Rochester, MN-Mason City, IA-Austin, MN

152610

152720

153

154

-1

Erie, PA

152460

151250

155

155

0

Idaho Falls-Pocatello, ID (Jackson, WY)

147210

148180

156

156

0

Bangor, ME

146500

147060

158

157

1

Gainesville, FL

143480

146560

157

158

-1

Biloxi-Gulfport, MS

144350

144960

159

159

0

Terre Haute, IN

141090

142660

160

160

0

Sherman, TX-Ada, OK

136540

140220

161

161

0

Missoula, MT

136440

138300

162

162

0

Binghamton, NY

133620

132690

163

163

0

Wheeling, W-Steubenville, OH

126590

126550

164

164

0

Yuma, AZ-EI Centro, CA

122010

124660

165

165

0

Billings, MT

121170

120120

167

166

1

Abilene-Sweetwater, TX

117830

120020

166

167

-1

Bluefield-Beckley-Oak Hill, WV

119760

119330

168

168

0

Hatties burg-Laurel, MS

113740

114160

169

169

0

Rapid City, SD

108880

110060

170

170

0

Dothan, AL

107820

108770

171

171

0

Utica, NY

103310

102160

172

172

0

Clarksburg-Weston, WV

100640

101120

174

173

1

Harrisonburg, VA

99720

100920

175

174

1

Jackson, TN

98790

99740

176

175

1

Quincy, IL-Hannibal, MO-Keokuk, IA

98590

99650

173

176

-3

Charlottesville, VA

100520

99260

177

177

0

Lake Charles, LA

98130

97170

178

178

0

Elmira (Corning), NY

95420

94030

179

179

0

Watertown, NY

93680

93350

180

180

0

Bowling Green, KY

91260

93320

181

181

0

Marquette, MI

88290

89550

183

182

1

Jonesboro, AR

87600

89400

182

183

-1

Alexandria, LA

87870

85710

186

184

2

Laredo, TX

82720

84750

184

185

-1

Butte-Bozeman, MT

82820

83590

185

186

-1

Bend, OR

82760

83160

187

187

0

Grand Junction-Montrose, CO

80830

81090

189

188

1

Twin Falls, ID

75070

77070

188

189

-1

Lafayette, IN

75190

74620

190

190

0

Lima, OH

70150

69630

191

191

0

Great Falls, MT

66110

66390

192

192

0

Meridian, MS

65280

64660

194

193

1

Cheyenne, WY-Scotts bluff, NE

61010

60950

193

194

-1

Parkersburg, W

61720

60660

196

195

1

Greenwood-Greenville, MS

60640

59980

195

196

-1

Eureka, CA

60870

59670

197

197

0

San Angelo, TX

58460

57040

198

198

0

Casper-Riverton, WY

56870

56860

199

199

0

Mankato, MN

56310

56190

200

200

0

Ottumwa, IA-Kirksville, MO

46450

47020

 

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This is legit and corroborates with some other information I had previously gathered. @MarkBRollins88_v2 is it possible to get DMAs 201–210?

Wanted to also add some context. I've been maintaining a database of ADI and DMA rankers that goes back to 1968 (the concept of exclusive markets itself only began in 1966 with Arbitron and 1967 with Nielsen).

 

This is the first time AFAIK that Philadelphia has not been market #4. Dallas–Fort Worth was ADI #12 in 1968.

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6 minutes ago, Samantha said:

This is legit and corroborates with some other information I had previously gathered. @MarkBRollins88_v2 is it possible to get DMAs 201–210?

Wanted to also add some context. I've been maintaining a database of ADI and DMA rankers that goes back to 1968 (the concept of exclusive markets itself only began in 1966 with Arbitron and 1967 with Nielsen).

 

This is the first time AFAIK that Philadelphia has not been market #4. Dallas–Fort Worth was ADI #12 in 1968.

Only the top 200 were released AFAIK. Unclear what that means for 200-210

I'm guessing poor little lonely Glendive is still at #210.

 

Big jump in 1 years' time for Tyler-Longview.  And 134,000 more HH in DFW--understandable, with the amount of people that are moving there.

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1 hour ago, MarkBRollins88_v2 said:

With all of this in mind, I motion @Weeters to sunset the ‘Philadelphia News’ forum and replace it with a ‘DFW News Forum’ 

Or... a DFW News Forum is created and, if there's room, the Philadelphia News Forum stays below it.

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Not on the level of Weeters, but as a mod, the top-4 market sections were created in a much different time. The industry was healthier and the demand for it on this site was greater. We've also always had reasonably strong Philly representation to warrant its existence. New York and Chicago conversation is similarly active. Los Angeles, admittedly not as much, but leaving out market #2 would've been weird. I'm just not sure we have the interest for such a channel for individual stations in DFW. We had briefly kicked the tires on a Texas section, but that wouldn't be my call.

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@MarkBRollins88_v2, I'm seeing a number of typos (such as "Serasota", "Molbourne", "Balimore") in your initial top-30 post. Are you sure you didn't get that list from an unedited draft?  😏

 

 

30 minutes ago, 24994J said:

Not on the level of Weeters, but as a mod, the top-4 market sections were created in a much different time. The industry was healthier and the demand for it on this site was greater. We've also always had reasonably strong Philly representation to warrant its existence. New York and Chicago conversation is similarly active. Los Angeles, admittedly not as much, but leaving out market #2 would've been weird. I'm just not sure we have the interest for such a channel for individual stations in DFW. We had briefly kicked the tires on a Texas section, but that wouldn't be my call.

 

Maybe it's time to merge the existing top-four boards into a single top-five or even top-ten board.

 

 

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Since there may not be enough conversation to warrant individual threads for each Dallas station, can we amend the rules to allow for one big Dallas market thread?

 

I ran into this issue while trying to create an all stations thread for Atlanta.

Edited by MediaZone4K

I know unfocused conversation threads are frowned upon here, but this might be a solution to markets where there is noteworthy activity but not enough to justify individual station threads.

 

Unfocused conversation threads somewhat already exist. We have threads about station groups where the goings on at multiple stations are discussed.

 

Example: if major changes were happening at say WFAA unless you start a whole new thread, one would have to post it in the Tegna thread. That might not be relevant because it doesn't affect the whole company just the station.

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6 hours ago, mre29 said:

@MarkBRollins88_v2, I'm seeing a number of typos (such as "Serasota", "Molbourne", "Balimore") in your initial top-30 post. Are you sure you didn't get that list from an unedited draft?  😏

 

 

 

Maybe it's time to merge the existing top-four boards into a single top-five or even top-ten board.

 

 

I copy and paste them from a picture of it so my phone might have mis-translated some one the words 

 

I noticed it read the lowercase L in “Tulsa” as an I so when I copied the text over, it says “Tuisa”

 

but everything was spelled correctly on my source documents.

 

i can promise you it’s all very legit. 

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6 hours ago, AmericanErrorist said:

I'm wondering how much of the changes here are due to cord-cutting as opposed to fluctuations in population.

Pardon my lack of understanding but in general the numbers have always confused me.

 

In the NYC metro which has 19.5 million people, there are only an estimated 7 million households (36% of the local population) with a television?

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