scrabbleship 429 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 WNCN has to ditch an hour and a half of programming so it can air all the CBS daytime programming. They air an hour of "Justice with Judge Mablean" from 12-1 (I'm sure WRAL is salivating at the opportunity to get that lol.) They currently air FOUR episodes of Judge Judy daily (3:30, 5, 5:30 and 7:30). If I'm them, I ditch one episode of Judge Judy and give Mablean to one of the Sinclair stations (or WRAZ) and call it a day. They also have Meredith which is being axed. Starting a 5:00 newscast would help them a ton. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriangleTriadMediaNews 267 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I could see WNCN dumping Meredith and/or Judge Mablean to overnights, unless CBS will push for them to clear more of the CBS Overnight News (IIRC, WRAL only airs about half an hour of it currently) Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking News 829 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 They also have Meredith which is being axed. Starting a 5:00 newscast would help them a ton. WNCN should run the same pattern that WRAL does as CBS, but make some tweaks in the process as well too. The Young & The Restless should stay on at 4pm with a lead-in to 5pm news (to create of course). It was already announce that Meredith will leave the air so WNCN move it too late night, and already airs a double run show at late night. Judge Mablean at 9am double run, Let Make a Deal moves to10am, TPIR at 11am, Noon News, My Carolina at 12:30pm, EXTRA 1pm The Bold & Beautiful at 1:30pm The Talk at 2pm, Ellen at 3pm Y&R at 4pm just like WRAL 5pm-6:30 News 6:30 CBS News 7 & 7:30 Judge Judy Now should WNCN keep their brand name as WNCN News or re-brand their news at CBS 17 News? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnya2k6 171 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 WNCN will get, after the switch, March Madness, more NFL, a lot of College Football bowl games and the SEC this year. Don't forget the Masters and PGA Championship! Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnuts6 91 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 lets not forget that this year TBS gets the NCAA Mens Basketball final four and title game..CBS gets it back in 2017 Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw-804 192 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Now should WNCN keep their brand name as WNCN News or re-brand their news at CBS 17 News? They recently changed their branding to "WNCN News Now". Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1232 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 lets not forget that this year TBS gets the NCAA Mens Basketball final four and title game..CBS gets it back in 2017 Something that WNCN incorrectly reported when they made the announcement of the impeding switch. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvcg66b3r 100 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Don't forget the Masters and PGA Championship! Also the ACM Awards and Tony Awards. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRolyPoly 2449 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Also the ACM Awards and Tony Awards. And the Grammy's, music's most prestigious event on WNCN in 2017. WNCN will get the Super Bowl in 2019 while WRAL will have it again in 2018. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action Newsroom 1283 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 And the Grammy's, music's most prestigious event on WNCN in 2017. WNCN will get the Super Bowl in 2019 while WRAL will have it again in 2018. See it's a win-win for everybody!! Especially for WRAL, getting the Super Bowl twice in two years! Thank God for capitalism. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson R. 569 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 WRAL just confirmed on Twitter the evening news on WRAL will start at 4. The 4:00 news currently airs on WRAZ. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 From the Triangle Business Journal this afternoon, the GM at WNCN is contemplating a graphics change upon the completion of the switch next month. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.L. Hughes 890 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Reading up on it, NBC's ratings nadir in Raleigh-Durham when it was on WRDC was mostly the fault of launching in an era when UHF stations were starting to gain traction, not to mention WRAL being given right of first refusal for NBC programs until Triangle Telecasters got the FCC to infervene, being within proximity of stronger NBC stations in nearby markets and having WRAL and WTVD as established competition on the VHF side (though Triangle Telecasters caused some of the problems by preempting NBC shows with syndies). But seeing as WNCN is now fourth place in the ratings behind even WRAZ (a Fox affiliate that doesn't carry as much news since its co-owned with WRAL), how come the network's ratings didn't get much better than when NBC moved there 21 years ago? What's at fault in this case? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTVNews 1377 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 IIRC, WRDC was then WPTF-TV and in the summer of '91 when Durham Life Broadcasting sold individual stations to various owners, the TV station was sold to Brissette Broadcasting and changed the call sign to WRDC after the three cities in the Triangle (Raleigh, Durham and Chapel Hill), and re-branded the station as TRI-28. However, this momentum stalled when Brissette laid off virtually the entire news department in a cost-cutting move in July 1991. Which led WYED (Now WNCN) to switch to NBC when TV17 was owned by Outlet and was affiliated with The WB in 1995. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkolsen 1684 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 See it's a win-win for everybody!! Especially for WRAL, getting the Super Bowl twice in two years! Thank God for capitalism. Or even better (at least for this year) they'll have the Super Bowl three years in a row - CBS, Fox and NBC. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestTV 1232 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 From the Triangle Business Journal this afternoon, the GM at WNCN is contemplating a graphics change upon the completion of the switch next month. They had better hurry up and decide. Those graphics aren't easy to build. But seeing as WNCN is now fourth place in the ratings behind even WRAZ (a Fox affiliate that doesn't carry as much news since its co-owned with WRAL), how come the network's ratings didn't get much better than when NBC moved there 21 years ago? What's at fault in this case? I guess I don't understand how ONE station in ONE market can end up hurting an entire network, which has hundreds of affiliates. People keep saying that "this will negatively impact CBS," but how? It's only one station. If moving to the lowest rated would have such a negative impact, then why don't we see networks trying to move affiliations to the more profitable stations in a respective market the first chance they get? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggo 356 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 They had better hurry up and decide. Those graphics aren't easy to build. They'll prolly just pick them up from an existing Media General CBS affiliate. You know, do it on the cheap ... Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickp 337 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Steve Hammel general manager of WRAL says to expect WRAL to continue its independent initiatives, such as locally-produced documentary series. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrabbleship 429 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 They'll prolly just pick them up from an existing Media General CBS affiliate. You know, do it on the cheap ... My bet: WJTV. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
promoguy98 253 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 My bet: WJTV. Lol I was just thinking that and I wouldn't totally be shocked if the music changed, possibly even away from Arnold and the Canvas package which began on WNCN. Graphic wise that's going to be one fast overhaul... It makes sense to adapt something that's recently been put to use at a Media General or former LIN station. If that's the case, hopefully they won't half-ass it. I'm doubtful a new, outsourced custom graphics package could be produced and produced well under the time restraints the station has to contend with. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClementeFan69 477 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I guess I don't understand how ONE station in ONE market can end up hurting an entire network, which has hundreds of affiliates. People keep saying that "this will negatively impact CBS," but how? It's only one station. If moving to the lowest rated would have such a negative impact, then why don't we see networks trying to move affiliations to the more profitable stations in a respective market the first chance they get? Agreed. The impact on the network as a whole will be minimal. The biggest place I see this hurting them is the content Newspath gets from WNCN vs. what they got from WRAL lol. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3955 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 It seems like the opportune time to switch things up. Perhaps the smartest thing WNCN ever did was to introduce their current branding with their "L8" package. And WSPA's use of it shows that it works on A CBS station. Perhaps they'll dip into the pool of LIN-related packages? But IMHO, they took the smart road a few years back that emphasized their brand over their network. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleSeven 1955 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Capitol Broadcasting's President/CEO Jim Goodmon & on-air personality David Crabtree had a 20-min Facebook video chat about the affiliation switch, earlier this afternoon. They also explained at the top of the vid that it had one more year in WILM's agreement with CBS. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvcg66b3r 100 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 They also explained at the top of the vid that it had one more year in WILM's agreement with CBS. Did they say whether it would be renewed? Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlnews2 591 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Did they say whether it would be renewed? He said that they'd start negotiations with CBS this fall. Link to comment https://localnewstalk.net/topic/14895-wral-loses-cbs-affiliation-effective-next-month/page/6/#findComment-143740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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