NowBergen 579 Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 20 hours ago, Rusty Muck said: Does that really matter? NFL games are still NFL games and WFXT will carry several Patriots games anyway. At the time, it was Fox's strategy. They have the NFC contract. Their desire was to own stations in as many NFC markets as possible. Although there is some flex today, Fox stations still broadcast primarily NFC games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megatron81 222 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 The Fox O&O in Detroit airs most of the Detroit Lions games than the CBS station and I think last year CBS only aired 2 Lions games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYAZSporty 44 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 16 minutes ago, Megatron81 said: The Fox O&O in Detroit airs most of the Detroit Lions games than the CBS station and I think last year CBS only aired 2 Lions games. Only 1 & it was a cross-flexed game at that Week 10 at the Chargers & it got Nantz/Romo on a rare singleheader week where the A-crew gets the late 4:05 ET game. Lions are scheduled for 2 this season including the early Thanksgiving day slot against the Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD TV 218 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 The Detroit (and Miami) question has been answered: 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mer764KCTV5 126 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 58 minutes ago, MD TV said: The Detroit (and Miami) question has been answered: I like how WKBD somehow had the second shortest time being a independent station right now, besides during the transition from being a Fox affiliate to being a UPN O&O station during 1994–1995 under Paramount ownership. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.L. Hughes 824 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, MD TV said: The Detroit (and Miami) question has been answered: …and @RustyMuck was so certain that The CW would be locked out of those two markets. Anyway, funny that Paramount/CBS gave up its CW affiliations last year, only to now agree to bring the network back to WKBD and add WBFS (which The CW passed over in favor of WSFL through its charter affiliation deal with Tribune) as an affiliate. This was totally out of left field. Edited July 30 by T.L. Hughes 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie56 3190 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Guessing that 9pm newscast WFOR has on WBFS moves to 10pm against WSVN now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDHIll1980 41 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, T.L. Hughes said: …and @RustyMuck was so certain that The CW would be locked out of those two markets. Anyway, funny that Paramount/CBS gave up its CW affiliations last year, only to now agree to bring the network back to WKBD and add WBFS (which The CW passed over in favor of WSFL through its charter affiliation deal with Tribune) as an affiliate. This was totally out of left field. To quote Wesley Snipes as Nino Brown in the opening scene of New Jack City..."money talks and bullshit runs a marathon..." 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrannical bastard 3763 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 The question is, who is more desperate... Nexstar or Paramount Global? It'll be interesting to see if this has any effect on any future sales of the non-CBS stations.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB4TV 345 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 4 hours ago, MD TV said: The Detroit (and Miami) question has been answered: It also appears that this deal also renews affiliations with the Nexstar CBS stations. Also, we're still waiting for Tucson, Corpus Christi, and Santa Barbara. Edited July 30 by JCB4TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frog 418 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 There's unconfirmed reports (or Adell leaked this) that a reverse comp dispute was behind the CW-Scripps breakup. Quote Reached for comment early Tuesday morning, Adell said he had seen the news of Nexstar’s deal with Paramount in the Detroit market. When asked if he would move forward with his tortiuos interference lawsuit, he replied, “no.” Lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4362 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 5 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said: The question is, who is more desperate... Nexstar or Paramount Global? It's not even a question! Nexstar was acting out of utter desperation and paid through the nose in the process with those CBS renewals. Paramount held all the cards and if they walked away, then Nexstar would kiss NASCAR's junior circuit and WWE NXT goodbye because the affiliate map would be missing two top 20 markets! 5 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said: It'll be interesting to see if this has any effect on any future sales of the non-CBS stations.... To whom? It's no longer a buyer's market for TV stations and dumps like WUPA, KSTW and WTOG are unsalable. Paramount and that Ellison kid is stuck with them. 6 hours ago, T.L. Hughes said: …and @RustyMuck was so certain that The CW would be locked out of those two markets. Anyway, funny that Paramount/CBS gave up its CW affiliations last year, only to now agree to bring the network back to WKBD and add WBFS (which The CW passed over in favor of WSFL through its charter affiliation deal with Tribune) as an affiliate. This was totally out of left field. And Paramount Global got a hefty payday from a desperate Nexstar. It's a big slice of humble pie from Perry Sook and the other morons at Nexstar corporate that thought they could play pretend media moguls when in reality they couldn't back up their bravado. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaZone4K 1872 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 6 hours ago, Georgie56 said: Guessing that 9pm newscast WFOR has on WBFS moves to 10pm against WSVN now. Only to not win in the ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mer764KCTV5 126 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Next step on this CW affiliate train, Tuscon and others! I endorse KTTU because... I mean, they have no choice to do so. Grau Television is all focused on Sports in Arizona that they probably won't air the CW in KOLD-TV. For the others, I have no idea. Also, with Paramount this is the least of their worries, I guess they chose now so they can focus on Skydance. 1 minute ago, MediaZone4K said: Only to not win in the ratings. Y E S. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4362 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MediaZone4K said: Only to not win in the ratings. That's going to be because the CW primetime lineup is a giant blackhole of cheap, forgettable programming and Canadian imports, not out of anything on WSVN's part. It's the Ollie's Bargain Outlet of broadcast networks. Edited July 30 by Rusty Muck 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrschimpf 2232 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 5 minutes ago, Rusty Muck said: That's going to be because the CW primetime lineup is a giant blackhole of cheap, forgettable programming and Canadian imports, not out of anything on WSVN's part. It's the Ollie's Bargain Outlet of broadcast networks. At this point it's believable outside of cable ratings that Ion is the 5th network, with MeTV easily 6th (not going to argue about major because that Wikipedia fight wore me out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaZone4K 1872 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rusty Muck said: That's going to be because the CW primetime lineup is a giant blackhole of cheap, forgettable programming and Canadian imports, not out of anything on WSVN's part. Going to have to respectfully disagree with this one. This is definitely a case of station branding over lead ins. Channel 7 is still the #2 English language station despite weak lead ins from Fox. It's a strong station with a well known solid anchor team at 10:00 p.m. despite not quite having the energy it used to. IMO Ch's 10 & 7 outdo Ch's 6 & 4 because of the tabloid newscast appetite in Miami. The latter have more standard clean cut corporate broadcasts. Moreover the WBFS newscast would be produced by WFOR which is the last place station in Miami (despite CBS at one point being the #1 television network). Edited July 30 by MediaZone4K 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickp 313 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Hilarious development of a hilarious cycle of affiliations, a station sale that never went through and dire straits for the CW in Detroit 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Muck 4362 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 50 minutes ago, MediaZone4K said: Going to have to respectfully disagree with this one. This is definitely a case of station branding over lead ins. If WSVN had to choose between Fox and the CW, what would they pick? There's a reason why WHDH never took the CW when they lost NBC as a Family Feud x 2 strip at 8pm clearly rates better than the CW ever has, even when they put out high-quality direct-to-Netflix fare. Edited July 30 by Rusty Muck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mer764KCTV5 126 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 12 minutes ago, Rusty Muck said: If WSVN had to choose between Fox and the CW, what would they pick? There's a reason why WHDH never took the CW when they lost NBC as a Family Feud x 2 strip at 8pm clearly rates better than the CW ever has, even when they put out high-quality direct-to-Netflix fare. Or maybe because WHDH was/is in a duopoly with WLVI and wanted to keep Channel 56 as the CW affiliate? 28 minutes ago, Rusty Muck said: Oh come on, it's academic. If one actually pays attention, the only reason why WTTV and WNCN are even CBS affiliates is because Tribune (at the time for the former) and Nexstar were willing to paid hefty fees to affiliate with CBS. Paramount held all the cards here and you cannot deny that. In the Research Triangle in North Carolina, WRAL-TV didn't accept some of stuff that CBS wanted them to do so they agreed with WNCN by default. Same thing goes with WISH-TV and WTTV in Indianapolis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mer764KCTV5 126 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) All the other deals the CW and Nexstar made about affiliations of the CW was not because of Paramount. Besides, Paramount is more focused on other stuff. Edited July 31 by 24994J 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaZone4K 1872 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Rusty Muck said: If WSVN had to choose between Fox and the CW, what would they pick? There's a reason why WHDH never took the CW when they lost NBC as a Family Feud x 2 strip at 8pm clearly rates better than the CW ever has, even when they put out high-quality direct-to-Netflix fare. I'm not disagreeing that the CW is a weak television network. I'm saying that that WBFS would lose to WSVN in the ratings NOT ONLY because of weak CW lead-ins, but ALSO because WSVN is a more popular station. Edited July 30 by MediaZone4K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mer764KCTV5 126 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 5 minutes ago, MediaZone4K said: I'm not disagreeing that the CW is a weak television network. I'm saying that that WBFS would lose to WSVN in the ratings NOT ONLY because of weak CW lead-ins, but ALSO because WSVN is a more popular station. You are correct! Also, having a 10pm newscast since 1989 has greatly helped WSVN in the long run, despite how joked it was in 1988. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrschimpf 2232 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 6 hours ago, tyrannical bastard said: The question is, who is more desperate... Nexstar or Paramount Global? It'll be interesting to see if this has any effect on any future sales of the non-CBS stations.... Here had to be Nexstar; they didn't want another mid-January surprise for CBS to pull WJMN's affiliation and look where that station is now, and both had priorities; CBS to keep their coverage, Nexstar to not have The CW end up on an HC2 station (or even worse, cable-only or ATSC 3.0-exclusive). Perry learned his lesson from the affiliates; play chicken all you want with the sidecars and cablecos, but when it comes to the networks you will not have a happy new year if they're having to throw Grit on a main channel and lose event revenue because of egos in Irving. Because of that, the alleged 'worst' station in the market in WZMQ was giddy to grab CBS and suck all the oxygen out of their competitor's news division to have it sold for a pittance to Morgan Murphy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mre29 1436 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rusty Muck said: That's going to be because the CW primetime lineup is a giant blackhole of cheap, forgettable programming and Canadian imports, not out of anything on WSVN's part. It's the Ollie's Bargain Outlet of broadcast networks. Most of the CW's programming would be right at home on a basic cable channel...such as WGN America. Edited July 31 by mre29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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